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ZOV (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2009 г., 8:52:10
Miland (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2009 г., 8:57:01
ZOV:Would it sound like the way the PS sounds in English??I believe it would not - it would be more like the first two letters when you say 'Psss..' But, in my view, if you pronounced it as if it were 'sikiatro' you would probably be understood.
Matthieu (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2009 г., 9:06:15
ZOV (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2009 г., 9:25:36
Miland:Yes you are most likely right, but it seems so hard to say the PS seperately...Why did they even need to have the P in front of the S for this word?ZOV:Would it sound like the way the PS sounds in English??I believe it would not - it would be more like the first two letters when you say 'Psss..' But, in my view, if you pronounced it as if it were 'sikiatro' you would probably be understood.
Miland (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2009 г., 9:27:54
ZOV:..it seems so hard to say the PS seperately...Why did they even need to have the P in front of the S for this word?I sympathise. More practice!
erinja (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2009 г., 10:48:54
ZOV:... but it seems so hard to say the PS seperately...Why did they even need to have the P in front of the S for this word?It preserves the recognizability of the word. You can see "psikiatro" and easily identify that it's a psychiatrist. "Sikiatro" doesn't give you that instant recognizability at all. And PS together truly isn't that hard to pronounce. You probably do it all the time. Tops, crops, tipsy, etc
It is a tad more difficult to say ps in isolation, but when you were a kid and you had a friend who really needed to go to the toilet, didn't you ever sit there and say "pssssss psssssssss pssssss" just to drive them crazy?
Also, in case you weren't aware, the psych- root comes from Greek, and the ps sound would indeed be pronounced as ps in Greek (spelled with the Greek letter psi, with a fully pronounced p)
Rogir (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2009 г., 11:11:32
russ (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2009 г., 11:35:43
Say "oopsy-daisy" or some such word several times.
Now say just make the lip/mouth motions of the beginning "oo" without actually expelling air, so that you don't actually say "oo". Then you can quite making the "oo"-motions, and simply directly say "psy".
A similar technique works for other "difficult" or unfamiliar consonant clusters. E.g. many beginners complain about the word "scii". English has the "sc" sound, just not at the beginning of words. E.g. "nests". Say "nests are pretty", then get rid of the initial "ne": "sts are pretty".
ceigered (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2009 г., 12:25:22
Rogir:Stop complaining and just pronounce it, we Dutch have no problems with it even though it only appears in a few Greek-derived words.Don't get me started on Dutch phonology
.And while I think he said it a tad harshly, I somewhat agree with Rogir - your mind is your enemy, tell it who's boss by overcoming it and pronouncing it even though it seems hard
gyrus (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2009 г., 15:23:24