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Sounds 'ts' versus 'c'

by paulbrill, September 21, 2009

Messages: 13

Language: English

mnlg (User's profile) September 22, 2009, 3:14:17 PM

Mutusen:That's okay, I took it from Wikipedia. lango.gif
I hereby withdraw my congratulations then okulumo.gif

jchthys (User's profile) September 23, 2009, 6:12:05 PM

Mutusen:Actually there's a small difference. Compare in English “why choose” and “white shoes”. There is a short pause in the second case. It's the same difference between “ĉ” and “tŝ”.
In my dialect the vowel in ‘white’ is different from that in ‘why’. The first is [ʌɪ], the second [aɪ].

ceigered (User's profile) September 24, 2009, 4:31:24 AM

jchthys:In my dialect the vowel in ‘white’ is different from that in ‘why’. The first is [ʌɪ], the second [ɑɪ].
In Aussie English we don't really have our 'ʌ' friend, except where we've picked it up by accident from American speakers (e.g. I think I say it in 'but' e.g. /'bʌʔ/ or /'bəʔ/).

Regardless here there isn't much difference, both vowels are somewhere between [ɑe] and [ɒɪ], with the consonant difference being that 'white shoes' sounds more like 'ttʃ' where as normal 'ch' is only 'tʃ' (overall the 't' sound is much more reduced).

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