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Feliĉa Mezvintro?

de Borgo, 25 de diciembre de 2009

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Idioma: English

LyzTyphone (Mostrar perfil) 29 de diciembre de 2009 16:06:24

Thank you @darkweasel that's so funny. XD

The celebration of solstices and equinox seems to be a universal thing, as we Eastasians have it too. Chinese call it 冬至, meaning the Winter Extreme (of the length of night) as opposed to 夏至, the Summer Exteme (of length of day).

To play the Bonlingvist here, I rather prefer a name like "ekvintro", ks, to the "solstico" since solstice is itself a compound word. Wiki tells us it's sol (“'sun'”) + stitium, from sistere (“'to stand still'”). So maybe Sunresto may work as well.

Donniedillon (Mostrar perfil) 30 de diciembre de 2009 01:55:18

Benson lists solstico. I know his translations are not everyone's favorite, but I have no problem with them. He also list the translation for equinox as ekvinokso. Seems to me that both are good translations.
I don't like mezvintro as a translation only because it does not seem to describe the astronomical phenomenon and it doesn't work well in the southern hemisphere.

LyzTyphone (Mostrar perfil) 30 de diciembre de 2009 04:05:57

That's true. Wait, is it so that when we in te N.hemisphere have winter solstice, the australians have their summer solstice?

ceigered (Mostrar perfil) 30 de diciembre de 2009 09:53:04

LyzTyphone:That's true. Wait, is it so that when we in te N.hemisphere have winter solstice, the australians have their summer solstice?
Apparently, from 69UM24OSU12's explanation, I think winter solstice is the same time no matter what hemisphere.

But then again I never even knew about solstices until now.

Donniedillon (Mostrar perfil) 30 de diciembre de 2009 13:24:24

It seems to me that solstico is pretty clear and that it is the summer and winter designations that get murky. One could replace summer and winter with northern and southern to eliminate ambiguity. The northern solstice (nordsolstico or norda solstico) would the moment in time when the northern hemisphere is most toward the sun in June. The southern solstice (sudsolstico or suda solstico) would the be the moment in time when the southern hemisphere is most toward the sun in December.

Vilinilo (Mostrar perfil) 31 de diciembre de 2009 18:05:44

ceigered:
LyzTyphone:That's true. Wait, is it so that when we in te N.hemisphere have winter solstice, the australians have their summer solstice?
Apparently, from 69UM24OSU12's explanation, I think winter solstice is the same time no matter what hemisphere.

But then again I never even knew about solstices until now.
No, ceigered, LyzTyphone was right. While the Northern Hemisphere has its winter solstice, we in the Southern have the summer solstice. According to Wikipedia:
... the Winter Solstice occurs on December 21 or 22 each year in the Northern Hemisphere, and June 20 or 21 in the Southern Hemisphere.[2]
... the Summer Solstice occurs some time between December 21 and December 22 each year in the Southern Hemisphere, and between June 20 and June 21 in the Northern Hemisphere.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_solstice

So, in order to appease both North and South dwellers, I'd call the two solstices of the year "la junia/decembra solstico" rather than "la somera/vintra solstico"

LyzTyphone (Mostrar perfil) 1 de enero de 2010 15:37:14

Vilinilo:So, in order to appease both North and South dwellers, I'd call the two solstices of the year "la junia/decembra solstico" rather than "la somera/vintra solstico"
Donniedillon:The northern solstice (nordsolstico or norda solstico) would the moment in time when the northern hemisphere is most toward the sun in June. The southern solstice (sudsolstico or suda solstico) would the be the moment in time when the southern hemisphere is most toward the sun in December.
I like both the "Junia/Decembra" and "Norda/Suda" system. Maybe it's really time to recognize the fact that there are people dwelling south to the Equator.

Vilinilo (Mostrar perfil) 9 de enero de 2010 23:30:33

niko-tina:
LyzTyphone:I like both the "Junia/Decembra" and "Norda/Suda" system. Maybe it's really time to recognize the fact that there are people dwelling south to the Equator.
I would go for Norda/Suda. There are people around the world that do not use the gregorian calendar, so it would feel akward using Junia/Decembra
Yet "Norda/Suda" is not immeadiately comprehensible, as it's not explicit if Northern ou Southern refers to Summer or Winter Solstice. I guess there's no perfect solution after all...

Donniedillon (Mostrar perfil) 10 de enero de 2010 17:43:34

Yet "Norda/Suda" is not immeadiately comprehensible, as it's not explicit if Northern ou Southern refers to Summer or Winter Solstice.
I disagree. The Northern Solstice is the moment in time that the sun is directly over the Tropic of Cancer in the northern hemisphere making it the longest day of the year in the north, and the shortest day of the year in the south. The Southern Solstice is the moment in time when the sun is directly over the Tropic of Capricorn in the southern hemisphere making it the longest day of the year in the south and the shortest in the north. I think it is quite clear and logical.

JesCed (Mostrar perfil) 11 de enero de 2010 08:41:06

Hello, all.

Getting back to the topic of language per se, I'm not quite sure the word "mezvintro" would be correct. If, when building words, the main root goes last, then "mezvintro" would be "meza vintro". Wouldn't that be the "middle winter"? The winter between two other winters?

As I understand it, the "middle of winter" would not be "meza vintro" but "mezo vintra", and the constructed word would be "vintromezo".

Any comments?

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