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A LITTLE STRANGE ENGLISH WORDS

Francisko1 :lta, 8. tammikuuta 2010

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Rogir (Näytä profiilli) 10. tammikuuta 2010 20.21.43

Would they also burn French bibles? Or original Hebrew ones?

Jes (Näytä profiilli) 10. tammikuuta 2010 20.24.28

niko-tina:I always thought that "wilst" was a word just like any other but not very used. Is there any nuance between "wilst" and "while" I don't know about?
Well, I am not an expert in these matters, but I think there is no difference between "wilst" and "while" unless the fact that "wilst" is used in more "formal" speach, whereas "while" is used "dairly" (I'd say!)

saloli (Näytä profiilli) 11. tammikuuta 2010 1.26.04

Rogir:Would they also burn French bibles? Or original Hebrew ones?
Oh! I am sure they would, as they aren't the KJV! I suppose the mentality of these types is that one ought to learn English in order to read the Bible in the original! HAHAHAHAHAHA!! rido.gif

Seriously though, these people still hold a lot of power in the US, it's downright scary when you encounter it almost daily here in western North Carolina, even in the classes I teach. I had a student want to drop my class because she was afraid of the Devil (I am openly Gay and Pagan, so, double whammy), though I took it as a complement lango.gif and we had another student actually file a formal complaint about an Art History class because the teacher (GASP!) showed photos of art that included naughty bits and pieces, you know the hoohaa! And the teacher had the audacity to discuss anything that predated Christianity! The nerve!

Fortunately, that student was invited to seek his education elsewhere.

Unfortunately, this sort of attitude is quite common around here. Miland, you were a little surprised to hear something like this going on, but my reaction was more like, “Oh, Another one?!” Don’t get me wrong, there aren’t that many book burnings around here (wow! that phrase just hit me while rereading it), but there is definitely a hostile atmosphere towards anyone who tries to question these types. Generally, they start whining about how Christianity is under attack, blah blah blah.

I think what a lot of people don’t realize is that the US is heavily dominated socially and politically by religious political extremists who are usually of the Protestant persuasion and are very keen on limiting the rights of others.

Oŝo-Jabe (Näytä profiilli) 11. tammikuuta 2010 1.44.05

Rogir:Would they also burn French bibles? Or original Hebrew ones?
saloli's summary of the situation was beyond compare, I just thought I'd throw in my $O.02.

The Kings James Version is a translation of the Textus Receptus. It basically compounds the errors of translation by being a translation of a translation (of a translation?), while making a few new translation errors in the process. People who are KJV-only, depending on how serious they are, either see only the KJV as correct or all translations from the Textus Receptus as being at least as good as the KJV (The reasoning being something along the lines of the translation errors being divinely inspired and so part of biblical canon). So that means that yes, they might have burned Hebrew originals or French translations.

RiotNrrd (Näytä profiilli) 11. tammikuuta 2010 2.31.50

saloli:I suppose the mentality of these types is that one ought to learn English in order to read the Bible in the original!
"If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me."

There really are people who think this way.

Vilinilo (Näytä profiilli) 11. tammikuuta 2010 14.35.11

I guess those guys would burn copies of "The Passion of the Christ" flick not subtitled by King James himself.

Miland (Näytä profiilli) 11. tammikuuta 2010 16.00.51

One of my favourite films is Inherit the wind with Spencer Tracy, Frederic March and Gene Kelly. For me, one of the funniest scenes is where an organ grinder with a chimpanzee, which is smoking a cigarette, says: Ladies and gentlemen, devolution is not a theory, but a proven fact! My friends, Man did not evolve from the apes - but the ape devolved from Man!

ceigered (Näytä profiilli) 11. tammikuuta 2010 16.30.06

So, if chimps devolved from us, then who did we devolve from? I'm personally at odds between these two blokes okulumo.gif

jawq81 (Näytä profiilli) 11. tammikuuta 2010 16.45.21

I'd like to throw my $0.02 worth in here, too, if I may. The King James Bible was supposedly written in 1611 and is contemporary to William Shakespeare's writings. I have trouble with 400 year old English myself and much prefer the NIV (New International Version) or the NKJV (New King James Version) although it is true that many Christians do prefer the KJV for a variety of reasons.

I'm seeing a lot of hostile caricature in this thread so the more open minded readers here should remember not to take as absolute truth everything they read. For instance, the quote "If English was good enough for Jesus..." is an old put-down and one wonders if the originators of it were aware that Aramaic, Greek and Latin were the languages commonly used that area of the world 2000 years ago and that there was no such thing as "English". They probably did but that didn't stop them from ridiculing those that they disagreed with.

And as for the book-burnings in the SC region, that's a new one on me although I wouldn't be too surprised if it were true. Unfortunately, you find radicals and ignoramuses everywhere -- in churches, in universities and walking the street. Ever hear of the ACLU? You know, those gentle people who never miss a beat at putting down those who believe in the Bible?

ceigered (Näytä profiilli) 11. tammikuuta 2010 17.08.28

jawq81:there was no such thing as "English".
At this stage it was part of the "Lingua Germānica Pāgāna" as the romans probably thought (heck, Latin was only just easing out of Old Latin itself, maybe I should say "DINGUAGERMANICAPAGANA" lango.gif).

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