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Neeerd

od Momomomomo, 23 stycznia 2010

Wpisy: 38

Język: English

benanhalt (Pokaż profil) 25 stycznia 2010, 05:19:26

erinja:Plus if you pronounce farti with the right Esperanto accent, the sound is far from the sound of the English "fart".
Except for the rolled 'r' it's not that far, unless you're from out east, maybe, where a fart is a "wickid faht". lango.gif

Nevertheless, the similarity doesn't faze me personally. For me there is a nice, if loose, resonance with "fartin' around". I could see "fartin'" in English slipping into having the meaning "faring".

erinja (Pokaż profil) 25 stycznia 2010, 13:39:05

benanhalt:Except for the rolled 'r' it's not that far, unless you're from out east, maybe, where a fart is a "wickid faht". lango.gif
Northeast only! That usage is pretty much limited to New England, and it's not even as widespread as it used to be there. When I was growing up, all of my Massachusetts cousins used it incessantly. But I barely heard it at all when I lived up there for 3 years.

Burgandyrose (Pokaż profil) 5 marca 2010, 10:05:20

Ok personally I think fartis sounds like fart to me. But hey I just found about this language last week. I would only personally be comfortable saying to someone else speaking esperando. Plenty of words sounds messed up to other people in other languages. The world for ice in spanish sounds like the word yellow in english to me. Sometimes an accent messes up a word so it comes out with an entirely different meaning. I know people who come into my pizza joint where I work ordering a Manhatten wedgie when they mean to say veggie cause they can't properly pronounce the v in english. I bravely keep from laughing until after they leave but I can't help myself... nor can I bring myself to try and correct them. Its too funny!

Back to the nerd issue though... we have multiple words to convey the multiple means of nerd in english... why not the same is esperanto. (Am I spelling that right? Sorry if not.) We have nerd, dork, and geek just to name a few and I think that while they all basically mean the same thing they each have slightly different interpretations. Geek is more intellectual wheras nerd is more obsessive and dork is more socially awkward. To me anyway.

Pharoah (Pokaż profil) 5 marca 2010, 12:19:15

Burgandyrose:Plenty of words sounds messed up to other people in other languages.
Titicaca.

Donniedillon (Pokaż profil) 6 marca 2010, 18:20:26

Nerd is an idiom that simply may not be possible to translate into Esperanto with just one word. When one says nerd in English there is a whole culture that comes with it complete with movies, songs, art, etc. All of the above suggestions are good words, but none of them fully capture the meaning of the English word nerd.I don't think that there is a way to translate all of that with just one word.

trojo (Pokaż profil) 26 marca 2010, 20:42:27

So I was thinking about this topic the other day. I decided while there are different types of nerds, geeks, dorks, whatever, there is one thing they all have in common. It's not that they are all super smart-- plenty of people are smart without being nerdy, and there are nerds who are not smart at all (e.g. Napoleon Dynamite). It's not that they are all into computers either-- some nerds are more into books or chess or Harry Potter or *ahem* Esperanto. No... whether it's by choice or genetics, what they all have in common is that they have mannerisms, lifestyles and/or interests that are directly contrary to what our enlightened modern culture considers "cool", "hip" and "with it". Nerds are uncool, unhip, and, uh... without it.

Therefore my suggestion for nerd would be "malmojosulo".

novatago (Pokaż profil) 26 marca 2010, 22:07:07

In Spain, we use a word based in the english word freak. In spanish we say friki (elparolita kaj skribita tiel ĉi) kaj multaj hispanaj esperantistoj uzas la vorton frikulon. It's a word I like in spanish and in not standard Esperanto.

In the beginning friki allways was an insult but the time and the internet became almost to everyone worldwide in frikis so I usually say that is friki not to be friki...

Ĝis, Novatago

qwertz (Pokaż profil) 8 grudnia 2010, 18:06:14

trojo:So I was thinking about this topic the other day. I decided while there are different types of nerds, geeks, dorks, whatever, there is one thing they all have in common. It's not that they are all super smart-- plenty of people are smart without being nerdy, and there are nerds who are not smart at all (e.g. Napoleon Dynamite). It's not that they are all into computers either-- some nerds are more into books or chess or Harry Potter or *ahem* Esperanto. No... whether it's by choice or genetics, what they all have in common is that they have mannerisms, lifestyles and/or interests that are directly contrary to what our enlightened modern culture considers "cool", "hip" and "with it". Nerds are uncool, unhip, and, uh... without it.

Therefore my suggestion for nerd would be "malmojosulo".
Hhm. Recently I tripped over that Nerdcore for Life video project. It shows some Nerds who try to explain their nerdness with Hip Hop rhymes.

muenchen.nerdnite.com makes some special events where some referends make a presentation about a non-mainstream topic which they are very passionate and at what they rise a lot of expertise.

What about "pasiulo" or "fervorulo"?

JulietAwesome (Pokaż profil) 11 grudnia 2010, 19:20:18

trojo:So I was thinking about this topic the other day. I decided while there are different types of nerds, geeks, dorks, whatever, there is one thing they all have in common. It's not that they are all super smart-- plenty of people are smart without being nerdy, and there are nerds who are not smart at all (e.g. Napoleon Dynamite). It's not that they are all into computers either-- some nerds are more into books or chess or Harry Potter or *ahem* Esperanto. No... whether it's by choice or genetics, what they all have in common is that they have mannerisms, lifestyles and/or interests that are directly contrary to what our enlightened modern culture considers "cool", "hip" and "with it". Nerds are uncool, unhip, and, uh... without it.
See also: Nerd Venn Diagram

jefusan (Pokaż profil) 11 marca 2011, 20:43:16

Nerdo is perfect! It comes from a nonsense word by an internationally beloved writer, to describe something that didn't have a name when Esperanto was created.

Another option might be otako, based on the Japanese word otaku.

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