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Esperanto study plan?

de erinja, 2010-januaro-28

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erinja (Montri la profilon) 2010-januaro-28 20:28:14

One of the core members of the lernu team will be guiding an online-based Esperanto course at a Swedish university. He will be using the lernu site, and he has developed a 20-week study plan for his students.

If there is user interest, we will publish this study plan on the site, and beginners who want a little more structure can use it to guide their studies.

This is a draft version of the study plan to be used by the course:
http://vikio.lernu.net/Planoj/LaborPlanoj/2010/D...

Feel free to take a look and make comments! We are actively soliciting user comments, both from experienced users (regarding the order of the courses, amount of time given for each topic, etc) and also from beginners (regarding what you'd like to see in a study plan, how fast you think you'd like to move, etc)

Miland (Montri la profilon) 2010-januaro-28 21:47:45

I note that people are supposed to be ready for the basic examination after week 20. The [url=http://en.lernu.net/mia_lernu/ekzamenoj/antaŭkonoj.php]required knowledge[/url] includes the [url=http://en.lernu.net/biblioteko/rakontoj/vere_aŭ_fantazie/vortoj.php]406 words[/url] assumed for the book Vere aŭ Fantazie?

The scheme doesn't include Ana Renkontas; are the other courses sufficient to compensate?

I would be inclined to suggest that someone work through Gerda Malaperis! before attempting the examination, to be sure of having a sufficient vocabulary.

1Guy1 (Montri la profilon) 2010-januaro-29 12:40:50

erinja:Feel free to take a look and make comments! We are actively soliciting user comments, both from experienced users (regarding the order of the courses, amount of time given for each topic, etc) and also from beginners (regarding what you'd like to see in a study plan, how fast you think you'd like to move, etc)
As still quite a beginner, and one who has fallen very much 'by the wayside' with his Esperanto studies I think this is a very good idea.

Lernu offers a lot of great stuff, but after finishing Ana Pana I found it hard to decide what to do next, tried two or three things, then stopped. This syllabus looks like it would have been really helpful in propelling me to some level of competence and may be a good way for me to get back in to learning Esperanto.

erinja (Montri la profilon) 2010-januaro-29 16:00:23

One comment came via e-mail that thought that 20 weeks was too slow, that people want to study faster than that.

Does anyone have any comment about that?

I will add that no one is forcing anyone to take 20 weeks to go through the courses. Anyone could study according to the plan at their own pace, of course!

As a personal comment, 1Guy1, your Ana Pana tutor is there to help you. Feel free to ask your tutor for assistance not only in the language, but also in deciding where to go next at lernu. You can also e-mail to lingvohelpanto_en@lernu.net at any time to ask for advice on the language or on using the site.

linkmaster03 (Montri la profilon) 2010-januaro-30 01:59:06

This is a great idea! I am a beginner, and like 1Guy1, I find it hard to pick a course to work on. A structure like this is very nice.

I do think that 20 weeks is a bit long, though. Maybe the program could be shortened to 10-15 weeks, or more material could be added into the 20-week plan. I think that would keep study consistent and still allow time to review tough parts.

erinja (Montri la profilon) 2010-januaro-30 17:09:12

So based on everyone's comments, there's a new 15-week plan, which has more material than the 20-week plan, and also obviously a reduced period of time.

For those with an incomplete grasp of Esperanto, the note at the top says that the learner is expected to spend about an hour per day studying, preferably broken up throughout the day; for example, 20 minutes in the morning, 20 minutes in the afternoon, 20 minutes in the evening, etc.

The new 15-week plan

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2010-januaro-30 17:54:41

Blimey - 15 weeks sounds very small - I take it this is comparable to a university course (e.g. a diploma in a language) outline in terms of intensity?

(1hr/day ~ same work load of an idealistic (possibly utopian lango.gif) first year undergraduate homeworkless part time uni course, 15 wks =~ 5 months =~ a bit longer than a university semester)

Regarding Miland's concern, I never actually read Gerda Malaperis! and passed the exam on my second try, however that was roughly a year or longer after I started... Then again, I only got 12% through all the courses on this site (things seem to have changed and I can't find the list of courses like Ana Pana with completed ones highlighted).

erinja (Montri la profilon) 2010-januaro-30 23:04:16

It IS a university course, essentially. This course has been designed for a university's online course program, that's why it's 20 weeks. The 20-week version is a for-credit course; the plan is just being posted on lernu in case anyone not enrolled in the course wants to study the same things at the same time, in a structured way.

It looks skimpy on paper but there is additional interaction with the teacher that isn't marked on the syllabus. Also, time that should be spent studying is also not listed - practicing vocabulary, practicing writing and grammar, etc.

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2010-januaro-31 11:53:27

Cheers for clearing that up for me Erinja - with the student-teacher interaction and other minor things that aren't on the syllabus, I can imagine that it would be an excellent course (I hope the language courses I'm doing this year are similar at least rideto.gif).

I wonder what kind of assignments there would be for an EO course at a university - or maybe they aren't needed?

qwertz (Montri la profilon) 2010-januaro-31 15:31:36

ceigered:Cheers for clearing that up for me Erinja - with the student-teacher interaction and other minor things that aren't on the syllabus, I can imagine that it would be an excellent course (I hope the language courses I'm doing this year are similar at least rideto.gif).

I wonder what kind of assignments there would be for an EO course at a university - or maybe they aren't needed?
In Hungary every student only can pass with 2x foreign languages. Lot's of the students choose esperanto for that. That's no joke. An hungarian esperantisto told me that unfortunately the esperanto teacher at hungarian universities border themselves from the "normal" european esperanto folks/culture. So, there are a lot of hungarian folks who never join the "normal" esperanto folks. Furthermore, most german esperantistoj learn esperanto at a german university course.

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