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de k1attack, 2010-marto-06

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k1attack (Montri la profilon) 2010-marto-25 13:12:04

C'mon Arpee. Why not collaborate on my Bon Toki. I could hardly understand the Lord's Prayer in "Modern" Puna. It didn't make sense. Bon Toki is much better suited for the world.

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2010-marto-25 15:10:18

k1attack:nula = don't want
I was under the impression it meant "think" - I wouldna have a clue though.

Anyway, as Erinja said on the other thread, if this is to continue the discussion might need to be taken somewhere else off of Lernu's forums just so Lernu's servers don't get filled up with unrelated stuff ridulo.gif

(krom se vi volas movi la conversacion en alian esperanton forumon ĉi (ekzemple, "Pri ĉio cetera"), se vi ĉiuj povas paroli Esperante bone.
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unless you want to move the conversation into another Esperanto forum here (e.g. "About everything else"), if you can all speak Esperanto well)

Greyshades (Montri la profilon) 2010-marto-25 16:02:51

Don't want to make this offensive or anything, but k1attack...

Pick one language, dammit!

k1attack (Montri la profilon) 2010-marto-25 16:22:04

Greyshades:Don't want to make this offensive or anything, but k1attack...

Pick one language, dammit!
Bon Toki.

I must go off this post now. Bye.

jan aleksan (Montri la profilon) 2010-marto-26 08:42:06

k1attack:
Greyshades:Don't want to make this offensive or anything, but k1attack...

Pick one language, dammit!
Bon Toki.

I must go off this post now. Bye.
In a sence, Greyshades is right because if you turn around again and again you will never find something that satisfies you (like the horse that is at the same time hungry and thirsty and can't choose between drinking and eating, and finally die).

But in an other way, I thing building a language is not a bad exercice at all for oneself.

K1attack: concerning bon toki, there might be a difficulty for some, due to clusters (consonnants that follows one another). epz: multi, atmos. I think a "tokiponization" of such words is welcome ridulo.gif

k1attack (Montri la profilon) 2010-marto-26 08:53:05

In my language (renamed to Dunja Wen), you are allowed to add words, but I think a wierd word like "basuketubalu" for "basketball" is too long.

Arpee (Montri la profilon) 2010-marto-26 09:18:07

First off, there was no "Merging" of words. The meaning of the syllables them selves has changed to the new defined meanings.

ku is not the word for "work/do", that would be pa. ku/nuku is the new "li".

ku equals li in the positive form (to, for, because, at, on, inside, with)

nuku equals li in the negative form (of, from, out of, away, outside)

The reason this was done was to make less ambiguity of the root li.

Also "nu" doesn't mean "no" anymore, it strictly means "opposite", "reverse", or "anti-".

By the way, just like the old li, you still need to have ku/nuku between every word or the cluster of words may be misinterpreted as an adjective-noun clause.

For example:

Nani nula, nunani la ma ma makina ku puna na

would mean:

[a] linguistic vital emotional listening vital desirable primally young initial sensuous language good-linguistic speech.

It doesn't make sense because you didn't put ku/nuku to disconnect the words from forming into adjectives.

ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2010-marto-26 13:05:19

Cheers Arpee - in the end it takes getting used to but I reckon there is definitely more potential than when I first saw Puna (but again I'm more the kind of guy who goes for obscenely complicated languages like Old Latin, Proto Indo-European etc rido.gif).

I'm interested in the use of "nu" for "opposite" (lets just translate it to the EO mal). If we did this in Esperanto, I wonder if that could be used for negation in any way? E.g. "Cxu vi estas malpura?" "Ja mal." (if the person was clean).

I haven't heard it before, then again, I've never been talking to Esperantists en masse.

k1attack (Montri la profilon) 2010-marto-26 13:30:13

How do you say "is" then? Do you use "ku"?

k1attack (Montri la profilon) 2010-marto-26 13:32:22

By merging I meant "pa" now means to do AND to give. "ku" used to be used for "to give". "paku" can now be used for "to give". I'm really surprised by the size of the dictionary!

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