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Grammar Debate Topic #2: Sonĝi vs. Revi (Sonĝo vs. Revo)

Greyshades :lta, 5. huhtikuuta 2010

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Kieli: English

Greyshades (Näytä profiilli) 5. huhtikuuta 2010 5.09.30

Hey um... What's the difference? Sorry it's late for me so I'm not going to formulate a decent post. But I was looking up the word for "dream" and I don't see a difference between the two listed in the topic.

ceigered (Näytä profiilli) 5. huhtikuuta 2010 5.55.36

Greyshades:Hey um... What's the difference? Sorry it's late for me so I'm not going to formulate a decent post. But I was looking up the word for "dream" and I don't see a difference between the two listed in the topic.
Sonĝo = dreaming at night
Revo = imagination (presumably of things being made happy), dream (as in "dreams and aspirations") - Lernu dictionary says "dezirataj aferoj" - desired things (objects, actions, ideas or themes).

"Mi havas grandajn revojn, sed mi sonĝas malpace"
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I could be horribly wrong though. I tend to not talk about dreams and aspirations in Esperanto rido.gif

patrik (Näytä profiilli) 5. huhtikuuta 2010 6.42.35

ceigered:Sonĝo = dreaming at night
Revo = imagination (presumably of things being made happy), dream (as in "dreams and aspirations") - Lernu dictionary says "dezirataj aferoj" - desired things (objects, actions, ideas or themes).

"Mi havas grandajn revojn, sed mi sonĝas malpace"
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I could be horribly wrong though. I tend to not talk about dreams and aspirations in Esperanto rido.gif
No, don't worry, you're right. okulumo.gif

Anyway, this is a lexical/semantic topic, not grammatical. lango.gif

lavagulo (Näytä profiilli) 5. huhtikuuta 2010 11.47.05

Thanks, Greyshades, for giving us another grammar topic. But this one is pretty cut-and-dried.

As ceigered said, you dream (sonĝi) at night when you are asleep. You can't help it, everybody does it whether they remember it or not, and the only way to stop the dream is to wake up.

But you daydream (revi) when you are awake. It is just a pleasant mind-wandering about something you'd like to have happen. But you know what a daydream is -- you probably engage in it all the time, just like the rest of us do.

Keep them coming. Most of us probably need to learn more vocabulary. And, unless we read a lot of Esperanto material, we need to have our existing vocabulary reenforced.

super-griek (Näytä profiilli) 5. huhtikuuta 2010 14.01.59

In older texts you'll often read sonĝi where you'd now expect revi.

Greyshades (Näytä profiilli) 5. huhtikuuta 2010 15.10.11

I suppose the best way to remember it is by thinking "reverie" when using "revi".

Thanks for clearing it up everyone ridulo.gif and yes, I suppose this is not a grammatical topic. But see if Mr. Smiley cares rido.gif

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