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Trousers slightly down

של Roberto12, 22 ביולי 2010

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Roberto12 (הצגת פרופיל) 22 ביולי 2010, 18:04:36

I don't know how widespread this is, so if you don't know what I'm talking about, it probably doesn't happen in your area. For a few years now in England, there's been a practise among "trendy" young men of walking around with their trousers slightly down. It's absolutely ridiculous, and a sure indicator of a moron.

My question is: where did this habit begin? My best theory is that about five years ago, in an American rap music video, a rapper thus presented himself, and the trend was set.

Also, I'm not expecting any positive replies, but does anyone here dress like this? If so, can you justify yourself?

(Fashion - don't you just love it senkulpa.gif )

Donniedillon (הצגת פרופיל) 22 ביולי 2010, 18:12:03

You should really watch this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl_HvEHSlxQ

qwertz (הצגת פרופיל) 22 ביולי 2010, 18:25:16

I saw it first at the Kriss Kross (1992) Jump Jump video.

For the full video make a Youtube search from your side. This and a lot of other videos are blocked in Germany due to copyrights of Sony. (After some Youtube vs Gema trouble)

One year ago or so it comes up again. But now with tight trousers. Probably one music group spreaded "trousers slightly down" it again. I assume one of that french Tecknotik (music style) folks makes it popular.

en.wikipedia.org

erinja (הצגת פרופיל) 22 ביולי 2010, 18:28:30

As someone has already mentioned, this habit started very early. From my own recollections, this type of dressing was widespread by 1996 or so.

It has always been associated with hip hop music, and boys who don't like hip hop music don't tend to dress this way. (specific to boys, because this "extremely baggy trousers hanging down so low that your underwear sticks out" thing seems confined to boys).

I have seen boys with their trousers so low that nearly their entire bottom was sticking out of their pants, covered with colorful boxer shorts.

ceigered (הצגת פרופיל) 22 ביולי 2010, 18:54:46

We're talking about trousers well past 5cm lower than the bellybutton yeah (I mean, I never wear a belt so my pants shorts (I tend to only wear shorts) sort of go below my undies line, but never too far)? I must admit, that pants down at the knees business, it sort of reminds me of the Japanese hakama somehow, not because of resemblence per se but because it's a different way of looking at pants.

If it ever ends up developing into a proper fashion, e.g. having specially designed pairs of pants worn at different heights at the right proportions and fittings (as opposed to wearing undies and putting the pants on wrong, and putting random bling there to make it look more expensive), I reckon it could start to evolve as a fashion art form, but at the moment it seems more or less a youth subculture phase. If it ever becomes disconnected to hip hop, it'd be interesting to see if it could ever evolve into a sort of traditional dress style... (sounds silly I know, but then again, all human clothing evolves from something silly or is silly (the tie for example is hardly utilitarian, just like wearing pants too low rido.gif).

erinja (הצגת פרופיל) 22 ביולי 2010, 19:08:30

Hard to see how there could be a 'correct' use of trousers that are hanging below your bum. There's simply nothing to hold them up with, short of resorting to some highly uncool suspenders.

When I've seen boys wearing their trousers so low, I have often seen them frequently tugging at the waist to hike the trousers up a bit, to prevent them from falling down entirely.

You can see an example of this 'style' at Wikipedia's page on "sagging", and also enjoy this amusing legal diagram of the style.

Akwino (הצגת פרופיל) 22 ביולי 2010, 21:40:27

Dankon al Dio, I've never seen this except on building sites. The sight of four inches of sweaty, hairy buttock cleavage in the morning is enough to bring up my muesli.

The dry boke springs to mind...

Uvi (הצגת פרופיל) 22 ביולי 2010, 21:56:41

erinja:It has always been associated with hip hop music, and boys who don't like hip hop music don't tend to dress this way.
It has, indeed, but the hip-hop culture has since permeated other sub-cultures, like the skater scene and metalheads, which also have adopted parts of this particular dress code.

However, hip-hop fashion is very eclectic and definitely doesn't limit itself to this more childish way of dressing. Louis Vuitton, Karl Kani and Armani now have clothing lines that cater to the hip-hop demographic, and their clothes have nothing to do with the pants-hangin'-low look. sal.gif

Frankouche (הצגת פרופיל) 22 ביולי 2010, 22:33:05

So, after a good bottle of wine, i respond this okulumo.gif :
Certainly for this young men/women, to keep away from the world of adults, to show their independance.

I remember when i was 16-19 year old (20 years ago), i had long hairs, not shaved faced, military jacket, badges of rock music groups on it, special "military" school bag, we said "US bag" with badges, pictures, poems on it... rido.gif
To appear the best way, you had to be like a tramp... I remember, some adults feared from me and i liked that...

I think it's normal for youngs to be different of adults even if they seem ridiculous because i remember when i had their age, world of adults seemed very ridiculous, and now i wonder if i was not right...

erinja (הצגת פרופיל) 22 ביולי 2010, 23:16:09

The world of adults is a strange place, and it is much more like the world of children than I had imagined when I was younger. I kept wondering when people would start behaving more maturely. Now that I have been in the workplace for some years, I know that the answer is "Never".

On the clothing end, fortunately, I have always been conservative with my clothing. I have rarely worn anything that is very fashionable. Therefore there is nothing very embarrassing in old photos of me! No silly hairstyles or underpants sticking out of my trousers or clothing that was "cool" when I wore it but ridiculous 10 years later.

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