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Esperanto and Google

od rbp, 20. septembra 2010

Príspevky: 8

Jazyk: English

rbp (Zobraziť profil) 20. septembra 2010 23:40:40

Hello,

I noticed some problems when I use Esperanto with Google products:

- Google Chrome believes Esperanto webpages are Croatian
- Gmail often classifies Esperanto mail as spam
- Google Translate doesn't support Esperanto

have you experienced other problems?

Richard

erinja (Zobraziť profil) 21. septembra 2010 2:00:16

Google Chrome thinks that Esperanto websites are Croatian, but I think it's wonderful that Google Translate is able to correctly identify it. To be fair, do you expect Google to develop an automatic translation tool for Esperanto, when there are many national languages spoken by many people which are still not represented there? For example, Hindi is represented, but Bengali, with about 230 million speakers, is not. I would never expect Esperanto (fewer than 1 million speakers) to get priority over languages with tens of millions of speakers.

I haven't had any problems with my Esperanto mail being classified as spam. But if you use Esperanto only infrequently by e-mail, and if it's mainly through mailing lists rather than personal correspondence, perhaps that's why your stuff ends up in the spam bin.

ceigered (Zobraziť profil) 21. septembra 2010 2:44:39

erinja:Google Chrome thinks that Esperanto websites are Croatian, but I think it's wonderful that Google Translate is able to correctly identify it. To be fair, do you expect Google to develop an automatic translation tool for Esperanto, when there are many national languages spoken by many people which are still not represented there? For example, Hindi is represented, but Bengali, with about 230 million speakers, is not. I would never expect Esperanto (fewer than 1 million speakers) to get priority over languages with tens of millions of speakers.
While it wouldn't be fair in some ways for Bengali to be supported after Esperanto, given that it's Google I can't imagine it being too hard nor expensive for them lango.gif. I can forsee a google translation for Esperanto coming at some point regardless though, since it can actually recognise Esperanto. Perhaps it might be there in 2 years or so?

Anyway, Google employees have said they would like to do it, but they need TMX files (Not sure what they are, but check out the link anyway):
Translator Toolkit API question about translating to/from Esperanto.
That seems to be from mid year this year (the US date system is confusing me though)

Also, stuff about said TMX files (translation memory?):
Uploading a translation memory

And all possible source/target languages here

rbp (Zobraziť profil) 21. septembra 2010 7:57:21

Number of speakers isn't the only factor.

Strangely Gmail used to be able to identify Esperanto when spellchecking.

You can assist the Google translation here.

sudanglo (Zobraziť profil) 21. septembra 2010 9:15:13

I don't know about Google but there is a machine translation into Esperanto going on For Wikipaedia articles (English to Esperanto).

I seem to recall that when I last looked some 500,000 articles had already been translated.

The translation project can be researched by Googling GramTrans, and you can browse some of the translations here

horsto (Zobraziť profil) 21. septembra 2010 16:59:49

rbp:
You can assist the Google translation here.
According to this link Esperanto is 100% translated. It belongs to 17 languages, that are completely translated.
Not to this list belong the france, the german, the spanish and the english (UK) languages.

jan aleksan (Zobraziť profil) 21. septembra 2010 18:20:02

just found this linkSeems that if we provide documents to google, they can put into their computers to generate pattern for Eo-translations.

(how could it be so simple??)

sudanglo (Zobraziť profil) 21. septembra 2010 19:15:57

There's a front-end for doing a Google search called Kukolo - link here - which understands Esperanto.

If you put in granda, for example, it will search granda, grandaj, grandan and grandajn. It will also convert input text from the x-form to ĉapelitaj literoj.

Nahor