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Seeking TrueTYpe Fonts with E-o Letters

fra bartlett22183,2010 10 23

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bartlett22183 (Å vise profilen) 2010 10 23 01:51:17

My apology if this has been addressed before. I tried to search the forums but did not come up with quite what I was looking for. Recently I had to rebuild my Windows XP system. In the process I lost all of the special TrueType fonts I had downloaded from here and there. I had several "SudEuro" fonts (Courier SudEuro, Bookman SudEuro, Arial SudEuro, and Times New Roman SudEuro) which have the twelve Esperanto letters in the standard Latin-3 positions, ideal for typing E-o text in many word processors. Unfortunately I cannot find a site for them to download. (The versions I had were free.) A search seemed to come up with one site in Italy which might have them, but it required a login which I do not have. Does anyone know of a source for such TrueType fonts? Thanks very much.

qwertz (Å vise profilen) 2010 10 23 02:19:06

Take a look at this:

Does there excist special e-o fonts?

ĝp,

bartlett22183 (Å vise profilen) 2010 10 23 21:24:04

qwertz:Take a look at this:

Does there excist special e-o fonts?

ĝp,
Yes, they exist. I had several of them. Unfortunately, when I lost the software on my computer, which I had to rebuild, I lost the special Esperanto TTF fonts which I had downloaded. They are not mysterious or special. I have just not been able to find them again on the internet.

erinja (Å vise profilen) 2010 10 23 23:53:26

Special Esperanto fonts have gone out of fashion in the last 5 years or more. In fact, this thread came as a bit of a surprise to me, because use of Latin-3 has been on its way out in the Esperanto community for a long time now. Most Esperanto websites now use Unicode rather than Latin-3. The only ones still using Latin-3 are the ones that were put up in the late 90's and never changed.

Unless you have texts written in Latin-3 that you are for some reason unable to convert to Unicode (any word processor, even a very basic one, should be able to do the conversion with a simple search and replace), I don't see any reason to be using Latin-3. Every modern computer should come with an assortment of unicode fonts pre-installed.

I was going to conclude this posting by giving you a link for a Latin-3 font like the ones you're looking for... but I was unable to find one, after some fairly extensive searching. I'm sorry but I think you're going to have to switch to Unicode!

For what it's worth, I recommend installing Ek! or Tajpi. It's software that runs in the background. You can type in Esperanto in any program, not just a word processor. It's super easy to turn on and off, and in most cases you can leave it on all the time and it won't interfere with your English typing. I know that changing systems is hard when you're used to doing something in a certain way, but unfortunately it looks like you might not have a choice. I used to have some of those old Latin-3 fonts myself, I know exactly which ones you're talking about. But they are long gone, I never copied them from my old PC since I stopped using them long ago, when I made the switch to Unicode (along with the most of the Esperanto-speaking community).

If you really truly have your heart set on getting these old fonts, though, let me know and I can make inquiries among my Esperanto friends who were using Esperanto online "back in the day", on the off chance that they may still have these fonts.

qwertz (Å vise profilen) 2010 10 24 00:50:23

Hhm, okay, I thought the matter was about Unicode capable fonts which got a nice style and not that ugly thrown up/smacked up/ alsurĵetis " ^ " styled fonts like Arial, Times New Roman font ktp.

bartlett22183 (Å vise profilen) 2010 10 24 20:52:42

I have Ek!, and it works perfectly well. Also, I have no problems with most web pages using Unicode (UTF-8 in many cases). I am referring to TTF *printer* fonts. Thanks.

erinja (Å vise profilen) 2010 10 24 23:24:36

I think I'm failing to understand something here.

Do you mean, that the fonts you have on your computer won't allow you to print your Esperanto documents correctly?

There are many TTF fonts with Esperanto letters that come pre-installed on Windows. It's not every font, it's not even half of the fonts, it probably isn't even a third. But if you type in an Esperanto sentence (or the famous 'eĥoŝanĝo ĉiuĵaŭde') and then change it to different fonts, you can see which ones support it and which don't.

I just did it on mine; a small selection TTFs that worked are Arial, Times New Roman, Cambria, Calibri, Constantia, Century, Century Gothic, Comic Sans, Book Antiqua, Bookman Old Style, Monotype Corsiva, etc. There are a lot if you look. You might not have exactly the same ones as me but Times New Roman, Book Antiqua, and Arial are ones that should pretty much be on every Windows machine. I think Garamond and Georgia should also be found on every windows machine, and those also work with Esperanto. I only went through the beginning of the alphabet but hopefully I gave you some ideas of what will work.

ceigered (Å vise profilen) 2010 10 25 08:14:47

I get the impression that Bartlett is referring to fonts he had on his computer that were special for one reason or another (e.g. not the default ones) that he's lost for good since they got deleted somewhere along the line both on his computer(s) and on the net.

Y'wit those fonts on the net that are custom made or developed by graphics designers for purchase which can be used by those who have them to give a document a more unique font than arial etc? (Like this: Some random fonts site of sorts?)
At least that's the impression I'm getting lango.gif

erinja (Å vise profilen) 2010 10 25 22:58:01

ceigered, I know precisely which fonts he is referring to, because I used to use them myself, way back when. But I think that those fonts are no longer the best way to do what he wants do to. That's why the fonts are no longer available, because 'regular' fonts now have the Esperanto letters, so there's no need to go out and get a special font anyore.

The fonts were very run of the mill, except that they had Esperanto letters, which used to be a rare thing. There was a courier font, a Times font, an Arial font, etc.

ceigered (Å vise profilen) 2010 10 26 11:57:41

Ah OK. I was assuming he had some fancy ones, e.g. artistic ones that aren't quite so run of the mill as the ones I may have accidentally alluded to. The ones that you pay a bucketload for to download on your computer for graphic artists etc...

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