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Мова: English
mnlg (Переглянути профіль) 28 червня 2007 р. 07:44:53
Charlie:The other words were intended to show that the 'ng' sound can occur after any vowel and not just certain vowels.I think he meant vowels in the phonetic sense. Can you place a [ŋ] after a [ə] (schwa) in English?
trojo (Переглянути профіль) 28 червня 2007 р. 20:39:09
English has, if I'm not mistaken, more than 20 vowel sounds, including diphthongs.
Can you place a [ŋ] after a [ə] (schwa) in English?That's a tough one. I was thinking "brobdingnagian", but the dictionary doesn't back me up.
languagegeek (Переглянути профіль) 1 липня 2007 р. 15:38:48
Ok, the "ng" may not have been the best example. In my dialect of English, [ŋ] does not appear after the short vowels [æ] and . So “bang” has the same vowel sound as “bane”. In hindsight, that's more of a convergence than anything else. I should have talked about disallowed onsets in English like “tl” and “ts”.
Anyway, to get back to the point of ŭ, in my dialect of English, ŭ can only appear after the following vowels (in the same syllable):
aŭ as in “cow”, oŭ as in “go”, and uŭ as in “shoe”. Eŭ only shows up as a variation of aŭ, as in “shout” (pronounced ŝeŭt), and iŭ only as the interjection for “eww, gross”. So just like Esperanto, English has a restricted environment for ŭ.
Anyway, to get back to the point of ŭ, in my dialect of English, ŭ can only appear after the following vowels (in the same syllable):
aŭ as in “cow”, oŭ as in “go”, and uŭ as in “shoe”. Eŭ only shows up as a variation of aŭ, as in “shout” (pronounced ŝeŭt), and iŭ only as the interjection for “eww, gross”. So just like Esperanto, English has a restricted environment for ŭ.