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Arika Okrent speaking at the 2010 Esperanto-USA conference

ya qwertz, 10 Mei 2011

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qwertz (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 10 Mei 2011 12:17:14 alasiri

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some Youtube videos recording a presentation of Arika Okrent, the author of "In the Land of Invented Lanugages"

Part 1 | part 2 | Part 3

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Miland (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 10 Mei 2011 2:43:11 alasiri

Dankon! I didn't know about this. A very nice talk, and I liked the way she ended it.

razlem (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 10 Mei 2011 3:07:30 alasiri

Very nice talk, thanks for the links

biguglydave (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 10 Mei 2011 3:42:20 alasiri

Miland:Dankon! I didn't know about this. A very nice talk, and I liked the way she ended it.
I assume you're referring to the "respect for language equals respect for people" quote attributed to Zamenhof. I hadn't heard this before. Does anyone know the source for his quote?

qwertz (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 10 Mei 2011 4:43:17 alasiri

Ne dankinde. Was a non-intented "tripping over accident hit" at Youtube. okulumo.gif

qwertz (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 5 Agosti 2011 6:49:16 alasiri

Do, does that sanity check is the entertainment field where Esperanto competitives? (regarding to Arika Okrent's thesis).

sudanglo (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 6 Agosti 2011 9:08:42 asubuhi

How curious, I stumbled on this just recently when randomly browsing, as you did Qwertz.

Her central thesis on the three classes of 'invented' languages deserves to be better appreciated - especially the distinction between those that are designed to allow a conversational level to be attained quickly and have a practical goal (eg Esperanto), and those that are flights of fancy, exercises in quirky imagination (eg Klingon).

ceigered (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 6 Agosti 2011 10:02:25 asubuhi

I'm reading that book now thanks to a uni friend. I like her writing style, and ability to give any cloud a silver lining. E.g. one language by Wilkins I believe his name was, she said effectively ended up contributing to the creation of a thesaurus due to the way it categorised "all things in the universe" okulumo.gif (which meant a glossary was important to find things in a slightly quicker, alphabetical way - ergo a mini thesaurus!)

EDIT: nevermind, she mentions this in the video!

qwertz (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 6 Agosti 2011 12:19:24 alasiri

sudanglo:How curious, I stumbled on this just recently when randomly browsing, as you did Qwertz.
Yes, sometimes Youtube makes very proper recommendations. But they only can do if the video creators did add proper keywords before.

sudanglo:
Her central thesis on the three classes of 'invented' languages deserves to be better appreciated - especially the distinction between those that are designed to allow a conversational level to be attained quickly and have a practical goal (eg Esperanto), and those that are flights of fancy, exercises in quirky imagination (eg Klingon).
Yes, thank you for mention that. Right now I visited 3x European Esperanto events. The next one will be the JEFO-FESTO. Sometimes I got the feeling, that the communication atmoshpere is not that relaxed I know of other similar non-Esperanto events. Maybe its regarding the possible "fact"(?) that there are not that mass of fluent speakers across the Esperanto youth. (Its mixed mostly by age.) I believe some more entertainment especially Esperanto music could loosen up that. It already works very well like i.e. seen at this musical event. It works the way that some folks storm/flush the area in front of the stage and get dancing. There are some motivigulo out there. That's fun. (At least I see it this way). Me by myself experienced that already several times. That's some kind of group suction "pressure" I really like and which motivates me to i.e. spend money to go some Esperanto events and "batteling" of non-proper inner-EU-train and coach connections. (Which really ehm ... ĝenas/nervosigilas).

Btw. I also would like see much more discussions between Esperanto muzicans i.e. like seen here.

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