ceigered:"Bv. atenti, ke MONATO publikigas tekstojn en sed ne pri Esperanto. Do ne sendu primovadajn artikolojn."

Vere, I hadn't noticed that. Still, if you plan to write in English, you could try a magazine of a national Esperanto association, in Australia or elsewhere.

I either haven't understood the idea of that website or can't see the point of it at all.
Why do we have to comment whether Esperanto is a Latin's daughter or grandson or it isn't.

And why do we have to wonder so much if the language is artificial or not? And what does 'artificial' actually mean? Just words put in order by a person intentionally or the words should be taken from speaking robots or Martians landed on Earth?!?!

And why is important that something was invented near Germany? Germany is in the centre of the European continent so wherever something is designed it will be inevitable near Germany.

ceigered:

qwertz:I will not go anywhere to do some mission work in the name of plej mojosa uncle Zam. I assume, he would understand that if he could read that.

Pffft. Stuff doing it for him, it's all for my sake (that sounds ruder than I mean it )

Yes, simply needs to pull away the solid gone Esperanto ship.

ZAM & ZIL - Unu Lingvo* aka Eterne Rima aka ... aka ... aka ... What should we do without him and Vinilkosmo and ... and ... and ... and ... other (Espo musicans) of course?

*I recommend to read the lyrics found at the regarding Youtube comment.

Estas ian interna senpaciencon, kio fuŝpuŝiĝas vin antaŭen kunhelpe de Esperanto.

Its some internal impatience, what "fuŝpuŝiĝas" you forward with the drive of Esperanto.

•)eôbo(•••

ppk89:can't see the point of it at all.

+1

ppk89:I either haven't understood the idea of that website or can't see the point of it at all.
Why* do we have to comment whether Esperanto is a Latin's daughter or grandson or it isn't.

And why* do we have to wonder so much if the language is artificial or not? And what does 'artificial' actually mean? Just words put in order by a person intentionally or the words should be taken from speaking robots or Martians landed on Earth?!?!

And why* is important that something was invented near Germany? Germany is in the centre of the European continent so wherever something is designed it will be inevitable near Germany.

And why* you feel offended? What's going wrong?

And why* you feel offended? What's going wrong?

I am not offended. Just all this sounds to me as if the next step in that little site will be...''Well, this is like Latin, that's like Latin so why do you waste your time on it and don't start learning English (as it's deriving from Latin as well) or maybe take up the sheer Latin.

various:can't see the point of it at all.

Part of the prejudice against Esperanto is based on the idea that it is not a "natural" but an "artificial" language, and exaggerated implications are drawn from this, for example that it cannot have a culture of its own, need not be considered a genuine language, and can even be treated as non-existent by tne state (It was withdrawn from the GCSE, i.e. as a legitimate foreign language for secondary school curriculums, in the UK).

Ceigered's projected essay, in my view may help to counter this prejudice, if it is carefully targeted and the ideas it aims to get across are thought out.

Well, if this is the case then it is a genuine idea. I am sorry if I misunderstood it. That might be because the English isn't my mother tongue.

Miland:

various:can't see the point of it at all.

Part of the prejudice against Esperanto is based on the idea that it is not a "natural" but an "artificial" language, ...

Who cares about folks who propagate that? They don't accept the rule number one: "respect". Without respect for me, no respect for you. Does the Esperanto community really is backed to any wall and have to fight for something? I don't think so.

Miland:
... and exaggerated implications are drawn from this, for example that it cannot have a culture of its own, ...

It can. But simply, the current Esperanto community doesn't have that strong culture. Apart some congress-lobby-circle traditions. There's no reason to feel ashamed about missing culture. Someones could try to learn of that criticism and could try to develop some more Esperanto culture. Instead of, self-choosen victim role (=everybody is against Esperanto; Who is everybody?) is choosen. Okay, that can also occupy oneselves the whole life. Well done by the end. If it makes some peoply happy to cruise hard-heat-sealed to their beliefs the whole life. Okay. I could not live that way.

Miland:
... need not be considered a genuine language, and can even be treated as non-existent by tne state...

Sounds like the same issue like that one of the Roma gypsies. And that is a court of justice issue of European law. Some folks need a justice shot across the bows.

Miland:
(It was withdrawn from the GCSE, i.e. as a legitimate foreign language for secondary school curriculums, in the UK).

Sometimes I got the impression that some Esperanto folks try to keep alive an picture of some strong-conversative (like Tory) enemies. I don't understand that, because I met a lot of people, who are absoluty not prejudiced against Esperanto at all, which of course doesn't mean the would learn Esperanto instantly. And of course, if I would draw an conservative picture of the Esperanto community I can only receive refusal which feel no pleasure of matters which holds stuck. That might be solely logical to me, but ... So, please also expect non-conservative views of folks you see like an enemy. Mostly someones only sees, what that ones wanna be to see. Btw., I include myself me inside that rule, too. But I'm conscious about that behaviour and try to change that.

ppk89:Well, if this is the case then it is a genuine idea. I am sorry if I misunderstood it. That might be because the English isn't my mother tongue.

You don't have to feel ashamed about not being an English native speaker. No native speaker owns it native language and interpretation by some national law.

You don't have to feel ashamed about not being an English native speaker. No native speaker owns it native language and interpretation by some national law.

You are quite right. And from my point of view I think a lot has been said about the essence of the language and it is enough. The language has matured enough and now it's time people started putting it in use; creating projects with it; spread it. But not say what the language is and what isn't.