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eojeff (显示个人资料) 2011年8月31日上午6:20:35
http://www.squidoo.com/tips-for-learning-esperanto
I a short LL Zamenhof bio, some Youtube video, and quite a few Esperanto books, etc. I want to improve the lens as much as possible.
If I could get some constructive feedback on the page, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks a lot!
ceigered (显示个人资料) 2011年8月31日上午11:12:39
I'd also change it from rather than focussing on how there was four languages that made it hard for people to understand eachother, to rather focus on how the four languages became symbols of ethnicity (ala colour gangs and their colours), and how language was being used as just another place for discrimination.
Start of "Esperanto is" has the first bit repeated (might just be a rendering issue).
Perhaps rewording to "has o in the ending" instead of "ends with o" might be better, since "ends with o" might confuse some beginners into thinking that the very end must be o, and yet the accusative has n at the end, thus creating a subconscious mental conflict.
"Infinitive" might need to be explained too - to anyone who's learnt an inflecting language that is at least sorta similar to european ones, "infinitive" should be everyday knowledge, but to most beginners to language, words like "infinitive" (heck, even nouns/adjectives/adverbs) make no sense. I'm not sure of a good alternative to explain it (instead of to before verbs, you put "i" at the end? That might ruin the table format though).
(as for nouns etc, "names/things", "descriptions" and "doing words" and "descriptions of doing words" are good explanations).
Nothing other than that though, since I can tell you're doing very well to be concise, and this input of mine sorta is pushing that already

Anyway, I like it. Is their a link to http://www.esperanto.ca/kurso/ at all? It's what helped me grasp the basics when I first found out about it (and it's kurtega!)
ceigered (显示个人资料) 2011年8月31日上午11:17:47

acdibble (显示个人资料) 2011年8月31日下午8:25:26
3rdblade (显示个人资料) 2011年8月31日下午11:22:13
Ditto about 'infinitive', I'd say most people don't really know what it means. The definition in Teach Yourself Esperanto was very clear (I don't have my copy on me right now).
ceigered (显示个人资料) 2011年9月1日上午10:06:51
acdibble:The French phrase would be, "Je m'appelle", but I would use that because not everybody speaks French. I would say ĵ sounds like the s in measure or the g in genre.Genre's riskier than measure. I'm sure almost everyone says "meĵa", but genre can be anything from "ĵonra" to "ĝonra" (more common) to "ĝenra" (more modern, yet also controversial and I wouldn't teach it - thus why it's modern

(a at the end is just an emphatic way of saying -er/final schwa in some regions, I know not all pronounce it this way here).
Precision, decision, and most -sion words work too.
English is almost the opposite of Esperanto - where esperanto favours beginning "ĵ" and medial "ĝ", English prefers beginning "ĝ" and medial/final "ĵ" (when both could ĝ/ĵ are allowed). Funny thing

AlexN (显示个人资料) 2011年9月5日上午5:25:44
eojeff:All verbs end in -e
If I could get some constructive feedback on the page, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks a lot!
Are you sure ?

Donniedillon (显示个人资料) 2011年9月5日下午12:11:56
ceigered:acdibble:I'm sure almost everyone says "meĵa"...LOL! I was apparently having brain farts because I had to read this word out loud several times before I figured out what word this was. Around here no one pronounces measure as mejxa. It comes out much more as mejx-er.
Just chuckling at my own expense.
ceigered (显示个人资料) 2011年9月5日下午12:20:42
Donniedillon:Just chuckling at my own expense.Sorry, I was trying to think of a way to represent that hard to reconcile "-er" sound

Esperanto needs a way to write a schwa at times like these, or normal EN(US) keyboard layouts, either one

(it helps if you imagine either a real ocker Australian accent, or Leo Wong's from Futurama

3rdblade (显示个人资料) 2011年9月7日上午8:39:56
Squidoo:All nouns end in -oI missed this before, but yes, it should be 'All adverbs end in -e' as AlexN mentioned.
All adjectives end in -a
All verbs end in -e
All infinitive verbs end in -i
I'd say have an example beneath each of these, then you can show and tell at the same time.
How about:
Nouns end in -o
e.g. La hundo. (The dog.)
Present tense verbs end in -as
e.g. La hundo bojas. (The dog barks.)
Past tense verbs end in -is
e.g. La hundo bojis. (The dog barked.)
Future tense verbs end in -os
e.g. La hundo bojos. (The dog will bark.)
Adjectives end in -a
e.g. La ruĝa hundo bojis. (The red dog barked.)
Adverbs end in -e
e.g. La ruĝa hundo bojis laŭte (The red dog barked loudly).