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de sudanglo, 2011-septembro-02

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erinja (Montri la profilon) 2011-septembro-16 14:44:22

I left the comments relevant to the thread. I removed the comments relevant to your personal issues with one another.

It would be appreciated, however, if you'd edit out the personal comments about geo from the relevant posting of yours that I left in, as a gesture of goodwill.

Chainy (Montri la profilon) 2011-septembro-16 15:26:36

erinja:It would be appreciated, however, if you'd edit out the personal comments about geo from the relevant posting of yours that I left in, as a gesture of goodwill.
Where exactly have I made a 'personal' comment, as you put it?

All that remains in this thread is a justifiable criticism of what Geo63 said.

erinja (Montri la profilon) 2011-septembro-16 16:32:01

And according to your silly way of reasoning, what should one think about the opinions of Polish speakers (a language spoken by less than 50 million people)?
I think that perpetuating these digs at one another is a silly thing to do. I was hoping that everyone would grow up and stop reacting to silly comments on both sides, but evidently that hasn't been happening. I shall have to employ a more liberal hand with the delete button if this should continue.

Chainy (Montri la profilon) 2011-septembro-16 16:43:36

erinja:
And according to your silly way of reasoning, what should one think about the opinions of Polish speakers (a language spoken by less than 50 million people)?
I think that perpetuating these digs at one another is a silly thing to do.
That's not a dig or a 'personal' comment about geo63. You can clearly see that I was merely demonstrating the silliness of geo63's argument. What's wrong with that? It was a justifiable response to:

geo63:It is for the world, not for the English. It is not even in English. So who cares what the English think of it - you are only 5% of the world population.
Nobody forces geo63 to make his at times strange comments. If he chooses to do so, then he shouldn't be so touchy if someone criticises him for it.

Chainy (Montri la profilon) 2011-septembro-16 16:53:49

erinja:I was hoping that everyone would grow up and stop reacting to silly comments on both sides
To be honest, I fully support those that choose to react against silly or dodgy comments. People who make such comments should not have the luxury of immunity from any form of criticism. How ridiculous that would be!

erinja:I shall have to employ a more liberal hand with the delete button if this should continue.
Fine, as long as you also delete the dodgy comment that starts things off in the first place. But, it would be ludicrous if you only delete the responses to it! Or do you support the rights of the those that make the initial dubious statements above the rights of others here?

qwertz (Montri la profilon) 2011-septembro-16 18:46:23

Probably, feeling offended seems to be an very individual and complex issue. And it also seems to be an never ending trouble screw. Maybe an special Peacemaking- button at the new lernu.net system could be useful to solve that. That could work this way:

Use case (1th proposal)*: Farin feels offended by phrase XYZ made by Mike.

Farin presses the "Peacemaking"-button (, which is different to "Report Spam"-button intention)

An "action required" message appears i.e. "Please now mark the detailed phrase made by Mike you feel offended"

"Add an description why you feel offended"

Press the "send" button.

The marked phrase will be copied into the "peacekeeping"-request which will be sent to Mike and the forum administration. Mike gets an friendly message to think about its comment which did feel Farin offended. Maybe that way:

"Hello Mike, Lernu.net user Farin felt offended by the comment XYZ you made here (link). That could be part of different culture beliefs between you and Mike. Please try to clarify that communication conflict via private message conversation between you and Farin. Starting by now the regarding comment of you will be only visible for you and Mike. Other forum user will not see the regarding comment the next 30 days. After that the regarding comment will be visible again to all lernu.net forum users. Thank you for peace making at lernu.net forum."

That lernu.net-feature could be requested here.

(I have seen that Use case* description idea at Ubuntu Launchpad websites)

Peacekeeping (en.wikipedia.org; UNO)

darkweasel (Montri la profilon) 2011-septembro-16 18:58:41

qwertz: Maybe an special Peacemaking- button at the new lernu.net system could be useful to solve that.
Do forum users really need somebody who sorts out their personal differences? I thought we were all mature enough not to need that. I don’t see the point - if a message breaks the forum/site rules, use the spam report button, if it doesn’t, there’s no reason for a team member to do anything.

Disputes arise in any forum, but that does not present a cause for a moderator to get involved as long as the forum rules are not broken. If the moderators get involved because of every little thing, I think a forum gets boring.

Anyway, we’re already completely off-topic.

Donniedillon (Montri la profilon) 2011-septembro-16 19:06:10

qwertz:Maybe an special Peacemaking- button at the new lernu.net system could be useful to solve that.
...OR...users could simply show each other civility and respect thus negating the need for such a button.

Whoops! Looks like darkweasel beat me to it.

geo63 (Montri la profilon) 2011-septembro-16 19:24:49

What is irritating - the constant arrogance of some English (not directed to anyone here). It goes like this: something is bad because the English think it is bad, no matter that this is not even English and not directly for the English. I could give many examples were foreign terms are very ridiculous for a Polish ear (for instance OSRAM - light bulb producing company, in Polish this means exactly "I will shit on it" - so following the logic we, the Polish, should claim to change this strange name which is present on our streets).
So I say - let the English think whatever they like. They are only 5%. Let the rest, 95%, decide. That is all. That is the democracy, not some hegemony. If that is silly, then what is wise? A dictatorship? Is that what you promote?

darkweasel (Montri la profilon) 2011-septembro-16 19:27:22

geo63:What is irritating - the constant arogance of some English (not directed to anyone here). It goes like this: something is bad because the English think it is bad, no matter that this is not even English and not directly for the English. I could give many examples were foreign terms are very ridiculous for a Polish ear (for instance OSRAM - light bulb producing company, in Polish this means exactly "I will shit on it" - so following the logic we, the Polish, should claim to change this strange name which is present on our streets).
So I say - let the English think whatever they like. They are only 5%. Let the rest, 95%, decide. That is all. That is the democracy, not some hegemony. If that is silly, then what is wise? A dictatorship? Is that what you promote?
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