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European commission document mentions Esperanto

از qwertz, 8 سپتامبر 2011

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qwertz (نمایش مشخصات) 8 سپتامبر 2011،‏ 17:28:59

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found at the official server of European Commission (The EC is some kind of counterpart to the European Parliament). Esperanto ressources are mentioned/cited several times at this document.

http://ec.europa.eu/education/languages/pdf/doc508...

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ceigered (نمایش مشخصات) 9 سپتامبر 2011،‏ 2:36:01

The stuff on Esperanto is very interesting, and looked at very pragmatically! It's clear that every reference to Esperanto is pretty well thought out and worded, no slagging off. Probably because it's not being discussed in the parliament okulumo.gif

Dankon, Qwertz!

mountainash (نمایش مشخصات) 10 سپتامبر 2011،‏ 9:14:18

Very interesting qwertz, thank you. rideto.gif

Altebrilas (نمایش مشخصات) 11 سپتامبر 2011،‏ 16:23:59

Very interesting. Can you mention it in esperanto forum, with some explanations? I wish to know what is the exact status of this document: something that commits EU to change its policies or only wishful thinking?

jan aleksan (نمایش مشخصات) 11 سپتامبر 2011،‏ 18:14:35

I don't want to weaken your enthusiasm, but I guess that this report is written by esperantists... I didn't find any name. Most of the time when a document mention so many time Esperanto, it's made by a E-ist.

ceigered (نمایش مشخصات) 12 سپتامبر 2011،‏ 7:54:51

Esperantists are allow in the EC? lango.gif

Also, these seem to be the "authors" or closest thing to it:

Davyth Hicks, Eurolang (Chairman) Johan van Hoorde, EFNIL Seán Ó Riain, EEU Geoff Scaplehorn, EfVET
Dónall Ó Riagáin, Abakan Action/ Voces Diversae Teresa Tinsley, CILT Jan Diedrichsen, FUEN

Seán Ó Riain seems to have done a fair bit.
Either way, Esperanto seems to have a disproportionate amount of things about it, unless one of these guys is from Esperantujo and just wasn't credited for writing half the thing okulumo.gif

(open the PDF, search for the abbreviations (EEU = European EO Union for example) to find who's from what organisation)

Altebrilas (نمایش مشخصات) 12 سپتامبر 2011،‏ 12:06:48

I didn't find EEU website. Do they have one?

Leporino (نمایش مشخصات) 12 سپتامبر 2011،‏ 12:53:42

Altebrilas:I didn't find EEU website. Do they have one?
Here it is: http://www.europo.eu/ge/hauptseite
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targanook (نمایش مشخصات) 12 سپتامبر 2011،‏ 19:41:44

The merits of esperanto are well known to those who form the shape of the educational systemes in non-English speaking countries. Nonetheless they still impose English as the first foreign language for children to learn - making mess in their heads. That is why after 12 years of education in Poland only a bunch of graduates are capable of using English at any reasonable level - I mean better than 5-6 year old English child.

ceigered (نمایش مشخصات) 13 سپتامبر 2011،‏ 10:18:58

@ Tarnagook, that's also an international problem, and not just English.

In most English speaking countries, we barely are at 3 year old level finishing high school (12 years) with whatever language we do. (I'm sorry if I am fuzzying the truth for the US, but given the amount of things I've heard on the net about people not finish Spanish with any level of command of the language, I'm assuming things are similar in the US as they are here in Australia).

I sometimes feel that Western/Central Europe is the only place where rampant multilingual fluency learnt through school and not through necessity can be found rido.gif

(Also on the flipside, mathematics seem to be down the drain here compared to Asia rido.gif)

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