Google adds Esperanto to Google Translate, making it the 64th supported language!!
door pauxleto, 23 februari 2012
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Taal: English
erinja (Profiel tonen) 23 februari 2012 13:54:00
In English it only survives in some pronouns and correlatives, of course. he - him, who - whom, etc.
Hebrew uses a preposition to mark definite accusative words (but not indefinite) and I think Persian does something similar, but I'm not totally sure on that. Marking the accusative in some way is definitely very common.
vincas (Profiel tonen) 23 februari 2012 14:07:34
Zafur (Profiel tonen) 23 februari 2012 14:08:49
Unfortunately I can't check it until after class, which starts in a few minutes. Boo. 
TatuLe (Profiel tonen) 23 februari 2012 14:12:01
Hiiren söi kissa - The mouse ate the cat (in the Finnish sentence it was the cat who ate the mouse)
But I found a sentence which it can handle in Finnish but not in Esperanto:
Segxon metis mi en mian cxambron - A chair put me in my room (wrong)
Tuolin laitoin minä huoneeseeni - I put a chair in my room (it's a sentence with really strange word order, and still it was translated with the right subject and object)
mschmitt (Profiel tonen) 23 februari 2012 14:29:22
erinja:Yes, Yiddish also sometimes puts -n (or ן- in its own alphabet) on the accusative forms of some nouns. I think this is common in Germanic languages.Thanks guys, I got it. The accusative marker is present in many slavic languages, as well as in others such as yiddish and japanese.
In English it only survives in some pronouns and correlatives, of course. he - him, who - whom, etc.
Hebrew uses a preposition to mark definite accusative words (but not indefinite) and I think Persian does something similar, but I'm not totally sure on that. Marking the accusative in some way is definitely very common.
Yet another esperanto issue successfully discussed in english.
omid17 (Profiel tonen) 23 februari 2012 19:07:16
erinja:You are absolutely right. In Persian there is an accusative marker "raa" that follows the definite direct object noun phrase.
I think Persian does something similar, but I'm not totally sure on that. Marking the accusative in some way is definitely very common.
For instance:
(I= 'man', He = 'OO', saw = 'didam')
I saw him.
=
Man OO "raa" didam.
komenstanto (Profiel tonen) 23 februari 2012 21:40:25
Bemused:How to eliminate the accusative from Esperanto in one easy lesson lol.The accusative isnt so bad to write, though in speaking it sometimes requires extra thought to cogitate. I like that resembles the German "den", only an "n" is added to "der" to make a noun accusatively declined. Suppose this was Zamenhof's influence?
Just get Google Translate to ignore the accusative.
Everyone "knows" that Google is always right lol, so anyone that is different to Google must be wrong.
How to sabotage the Esperanto language purists lol.
Just let Google Translate loose on the language.
Behold the birth of a new language.....Goosperanto.
sudanglo (Profiel tonen) 23 februari 2012 21:54:30
mschmitt:Yet another esperanto issue successfully discussed in english.Why should this not be appropriate in a site dedicated to assisting learners?
What is not appropriate, is all this blather about the accusative, in a thread whose topic is the excellent news about Google adding automatic translation for Esperanto.
Schmitty, questions about any aspect of Esperanto's grammar are in order, but a new thread would have been the place to do it.
There's a forum where you can ask such questions in German too.
pauxleto (Profiel tonen) 26 februari 2012 12:34:57
soncao:That's good news. Thank you pauxleto !You are welcome!
jchthys (Profiel tonen) 19 maart 2012 04:05:20