I find myself needing a term in Esperanto to refer to a certain kind of saw. This time it is what is commonly called in America (or at least New Jersey) as a Backsaw. The wikipedia article for Backsaw is here.

The important component of a back saw is that it has a stiffening spine on it which keeps the thin blade straight, but also limits the depth that the saw can cut.

I'm thinking a good term for it in Esperanto might be 'spinsegilo' as it does have a prominent spine.

I personally own and use three different types of these, each with it's own use, but in the end they are all back saws.

Since every nation has a different word for things, and Esperanto is like French, I found the French translation for this as "Miter Saw". Since this saw is used often with a "mitre box", I would go with some form of mitre and forget this "backsaw" idea. The Lernu dictionary has "mitro".

It all goes back to the funny Catholic hat and the joints used in picture frames. I think this word is suitable because the English word for a mitre box is in fact mitre box.

When we start to have hardware stores in Esperantujo, I expect the Esperantists will work out a term.

Until then this is for me just a saw (segilo).

There is a general problem in Esperanto terminology that in many areas Esperanto isn't actively used, so there tends not to be a clearly established term, and the individual Esperantist is left to his own inventive devices, if no lexicographer has got round to proposing a specific term.

In such cases, there can sometimes be an obvious compound, or an international loanword, However, when there isn't, you just have to create something on the fly that you hope conveys your meaning.

Perhaps, spin-kirasita segilo might work.

The Esperanta Bildvortaro shows (page 127 no 51) such a saw and calls it a Bevel-segilo(I don't understand that) and also Fer-dorsa segilo.

komenstanto:Since every nation has a different word for things, and Esperanto is like French, I found the French translation for this as "Miter Saw". Since this saw is used often with a "mitre box", I would go with some form of mitre and forget this "backsaw" idea. The Lernu dictionary has "mitro".

It all goes back to the funny Catholic hat and the joints used in picture frames. I think this word is suitable because the English word for a mitre box is in fact mitre box.

Looking in my Butler dictionary, 'mitro' has nothing to do at all with cutting angles.

Here's a thought. all the saws with spinal reinforcement are used for joinery, not simply cutting things in two, so why not call them generically 'juntsegilo'?

I am always struck by the shape of New Jersey, it appears to be an old man wearing a Shriner's Hat whenever I look at it. It's like his stomach is sticking out a bit on the bottom left side of the state. The top right is the shriner's hat.

Yes, 'juntsegilo' is good!

komenstanto:I am always struck by the shape of New Jersey, it appears to be an old man wearing a Shriner's Hat whenever I look at it. It's like his stomach is sticking out a bit on the bottom left side of the state. The top right is the shriner's hat.

Yes, 'juntsegilo' is good!

When they had the picture of the state on our license plates, they looked like little peanuts. Gotta blame the Delaware river and the Atlantic ocean for the shape though.

NJ Esperantist:

komenstanto:I am always struck by the shape of New Jersey, it appears to be an old man wearing a Shriner's Hat whenever I look at it. It's like his stomach is sticking out a bit on the bottom left side of the state. The top right is the shriner's hat.

Yes, 'juntsegilo' is good!

When they had the picture of the state on our license plates, they looked like little peanuts. Gotta blame the Delaware river and the Atlantic ocean for the shape though.

I have heard it referred to as the "armpit of the USA" as well due to the shape. Suppose it sort of resembles the side of a jacket with arm raised, maybe a Santa Claus jacket.

komenstanto:

NJ Esperantist:

komenstanto:I am always struck by the shape of New Jersey, it appears to be an old man wearing a Shriner's Hat whenever I look at it. It's like his stomach is sticking out a bit on the bottom left side of the state. The top right is the shriner's hat.

Yes, 'juntsegilo' is good!

When they had the picture of the state on our license plates, they looked like little peanuts. Gotta blame the Delaware river and the Atlantic ocean for the shape though.

I have heard it referred to as the "armpit of the USA" as well due to the shape. Suppose it sort of resembles the side of a jacket with arm raised, maybe a Santa Claus jacket.

For that appelation I think they're referring to the city areas, northeast, central, southwest. I live up in the hills of the northwest where there are still a few farms being worked. We're being infiltrated by big box stores though. Things keep changing.

Anyway, i wish i could find other woodworkers, or even just tool using Esperantists.

NJ Esperantist:

komenstanto:

NJ Esperantist:

komenstanto:I am always struck by the shape of New Jersey, it appears to be an old man wearing a Shriner's Hat whenever I look at it. It's like his stomach is sticking out a bit on the bottom left side of the state. The top right is the shriner's hat.

Yes, 'juntsegilo' is good!

When they had the picture of the state on our license plates, they looked like little peanuts. Gotta blame the Delaware river and the Atlantic ocean for the shape though.

I have heard it referred to as the "armpit of the USA" as well due to the shape. Suppose it sort of resembles the side of a jacket with arm raised, maybe a Santa Claus jacket.

For that appelation I think they're referring to the city areas, northeast, central, southwest. I live up in the hills of the northwest where there are still a few farms being worked. We're being infiltrated by big box stores though. Things keep changing.

Anyway, i wish i could find other woodworkers, or even just tool using Esperantists.

I think in Southern New Jersey there is some farmland. There was some scandal about KKK there and Italian farmworkers being abused in the 1940s or 50s. Of course when you get close to Philly then there is Cherryhill and it is all a suburb of Philadelphia, but my extensive New Jersey knowledge places a good portion of the south also as farmland.

Here I found a website for those who speak New Jersey and live in Esperantujo...erm.

http://esperanto-nj.tripod.com/

komenstanto:
I think in Southern New Jersey there is some farmland. There was some scandal about KKK there and Italian farmworkers being abused in the 1940s or 50s. Of course when you get close to Philly then there is Cherryhill and it is all a suburb of Philadelphia, but my extensive New Jersey knowledge places a good portion of the south also as farmland.

Here I found a website for those who speak New Jersey and live in Esperantujo...erm.

http://esperanto-nj.tripod.com/

Hey, you found me!

I can hardly be called well travelled, but Having driven up and down NJ for many years, I can easily say that there's a lot more to it than Newark. We used to visit my aunt down on Ocean City, NJ, just below Atlantic City. Travelling down Rt 206 through the central part of NJ it was odd to notice how the land changed from hilly woodsy areas with farms, to flatter citified areas in central NJ, to reddish clay soil, then the pinelands in the south and an almost 'southern' aspect below Atlantic City. Part of NJ even dips below the Mason Dixon Line at Cape May. Some of the areas just off of Rt 9 in the southern part remind me of Florida down by my inlaws.