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Vespero_ (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 15:47:37 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2012
I just had a few questions I was wondering if you could help clear up for me:
1. What is the difference between Ĉiuj and Ĉiu?
2. What is the difference between Revi and Sonĝi?
3. What exactly is up with "Ki-, Ti-" correlative constructions? (Or is it Ti-, Ki-?)
Thank you for your time,
Vespero.
Scratch (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 16:07:40 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2012
Vespero_:Saluton,Revi, to dream, or perhaps more like to daydream or dreams like aspirations. I dream of being an astronaut someday or I dream of having a date with you.
2. What is the difference between Revi and Sonĝi?
Sonĝi is to dream like you do when you're asleep.
Hyperboreus (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 16:35:10 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2012
Miland (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 16:39:35 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2012
Vespero_:What is the difference between Ĉiuj and Ĉiu?They are respectively used the way that all and every would be used in English; Mi diris al ĉiuj miaj konatuloj, "I told all my acquaintances"; Estas la devo de ĉiu bona civitano voĉdoni, "It is the duty of every good citizen to vote".
Vespero_ (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 17:38:27 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2012
Hyperboreus:Thank youVespero_:Saluton,Ad 1:
I just had a few questions I was wondering if you could help clear up for me:
1. What is the difference between Ĉiuj and Ĉiu?
2. What is the difference between Revi and Sonĝi?
3. What exactly is up with "Ki-, Ti-" correlative constructions? (Or is it Ti-, Ki-?)
Thank you for your time,
Vespero.
Ĉiu is singular and ĉiuj is plural:
Ĉiu domo havas pordon.
Every (or each) house has a door.
Ĉiuj domoj havas pordojn.
All houses have doors.
Mi manĝis ĉiun pomon.
I ate each/every apple.
Mi manĝis ĉiujn pomojn.
I ate all the apples.
Ad 3:
Ki- maps more or less to the English "wh-" (interrogative) and "ti-" to the English "th-" (demonstrative):
kie - tie: where - there
kiam - tiam: when - when
kio - tio: what - that/this
kiel - tiel: how - so (in such a manner)
kial - tial: why - therefore
kiu - tiu: who/which - this (person)
But, perhaps I was unclear. About the Ti-, Ki- constructions, I see sentences that use a pattern wherein a sentence has two clauses, one ending in a Ti- and the other beginning with a Ki-. Example: "Mi defendis min tiel, kiel li defendis sin."
This construction is very foreign to me.
sudanglo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 18:21:02 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2012
Example: "Mi defendis min tiel, kiel li defendis sin."I defended myself in the same way that he defended himself.
This construction is very foreign to me.
Mi defendis min, kiel ankaŭ li defendis sin - I defended myself, as he did too.
Vespero_ (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 19:01:39 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2012
sudanglo:So the construction I presented is not required?Example: "Mi defendis min tiel, kiel li defendis sin."I defended myself in the same way that he defended himself.
This construction is very foreign to me.
Mi defendis min, kiel ankaŭ li defendis sin - I defended myself, as he did too.
Could I just say "Mi defendis min kiel li defendis sin?"
Is the comma necessary?
How many questions can I ask in one post?
darkweasel (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 19:18:34 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2012
Vespero_:✔
So the construction I presented is not required?
Could I just say "Mi defendis min kiel li defendis sin?"
Vespero_:Is the comma necessary?No, it is not.
Vespero_:How many questions can I ask in one post?Those you wrote in this post were on average 43,75 characters long, the character limit is 3000 for non-translators (?), that means you can ask 68 questions in one post.
Hyperboreus (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 23:31:36 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2012
jrhowa (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 23:54:25 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2012
darkweasel:In the sentence "Mi defendis min tiel, kiel li defendis sin", the comma is required to separate the clauses. However, the comma would be unnecessary in the other construction: "Mi defendis min kiel li defendis sin."Vespero_:Is the comma necessary?No, it is not.