Katetino or Katineto?
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Ubutumwa 8
ururimi: English
Betka (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 14 Nyakanga 2007 15:06:52
Anyways, yesterday I learned, that adding "in" to the noun makes it female.
Kato+ in=Katino
Today I learned that adding "et" makes a noun smaller.
Kato+et= Kateto
However, what if I wanted to say female kitty. Would it be "Katetino" or "Katineto"?
mnlg (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 14 Nyakanga 2007 15:26:48
Betka:However, what if I wanted to say female kitty. Would it be "Katetino" or "Katineto"?katetino = a female small cat
katineto = a small female cat
pick your favourite
Betka (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 14 Nyakanga 2007 15:32:50
taneli (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 15 Nyakanga 2007 20:05:32
mnlg:Actually, people almost invariably pick "a small female cat" in English and "katineto" in Esperanto. (Try searching on the net and compare numbers of hits.)Betka:However, what if I wanted to say female kitty. Would it be "Katetino" or "Katineto"?katetino = a female small cat
katineto = a small female cat
pick your favourite
Besides, the Esperanto for "a female kitten" is "katidino". ("Kitty" basically means "kitten", but it is affectionately used about any kind of cat, big or small, young or old.) There the order of the suffixes is essential; it'd be rather pointless to say "katinido", as that'd mean "a kitten of a female cat", which is exactly the same as "kitten".
RiotNrrd (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 16 Nyakanga 2007 02:50:39
Betka:However, what if I wanted to say female kitty. Would it be "Katetino" or "Katineto"?Heh. I posted this EXACT same question maybe a year or so ago, as I have a small female cat (six years old, now, so definitely not a kitten).
I always use "katetino", but I think either one will do the trick.
mnlg (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 16 Nyakanga 2007 10:41:29
taneli:Actually, people almost invariably pick "a small female cat" in English and "katineto" in Esperanto.English has a definite order for adjectives (1) so I agree with you on that one. As for esperanto, even though there can be a more common pick, my point is that in this specific case the difference is negligible. At least I am not aware of a rule on preferable order.
(1) http://web2.uvcs.uvic.ca/elc/studyzone/410/gramm...
Betka (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 16 Nyakanga 2007 13:17:06
Actually, people almost invariably pick "a small female cat" in English and "katineto" in Esperanto. (Try searching on the net and compare numbers of hits.)My cat isn't really a kitten anymore (two and a half years), but I still refer to her as "kitty", because she's so cute, and sweet. "Katetino" sounds better to me, but since "katineto" is more common, I'll use both.
Besides, the Esperanto for "a female kitten" is "katidino". ("Kitty" basically means "kitten", but it is affectionately used about any kind of cat, big or small, young or old.) There the order of the suffixes is essential; it'd be rather pointless to say "katinido", as that'd mean "a kitten of a female cat", which is exactly the same as "kitten".
Thanks for the help.
taneli (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 24 Nyakanga 2007 00:11:39
mnlg:Right. In fact, I totally agree with you. I was just pointing out what people do choose, not trying to tell what they should choose. Personally, I prefer "katineto" (perhaps by analogy to "fratineto"), but I don't see any real reason to object to "katetino" either. Come to think of it, I feel "fratetino" would be an odd form, but I wouldn't call it wrong.taneli:Actually, people almost invariably pick "a small female cat" in English and "katineto" in Esperanto.English has a definite order for adjectives (1) so I agree with you on that one. As for esperanto, even though there can be a more common pick, my point is that in this specific case the difference is negligible. At least I am not aware of a rule on preferable order.
(1) http://web2.uvcs.uvic.ca/elc/studyzone/410/gramm...