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xdzt (Показать профиль) 29 мая 2012 г., 17:38:44
"Mi esperas, ke la longo de miaj afiŝoj pliiĝos po mia kapablo kaj memfido."
where I'm trying to say: "I hope that the length of my posts grow with my ability and confidence."
Initially I had "...kiel mia kapablo kaj memfido pliiĝos," but I thought 'po' was likely more correct, but I'm still not sure what is actually right.
I am trying out writing a blog in esperanto, per another user's suggestion, so I'm sorry if I end up asking too many grammar questions in the coming weeks.
darkweasel (Показать профиль) 29 мая 2012 г., 18:45:28
hebda999 (Показать профиль) 29 мая 2012 г., 20:01:58
po jednym - po unu
po dwa - po du
po trzy - po tri
po cztery - po kvar
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It determines how many units (or how much quantity) are involved in some action. So your translation should not contain "po".
I hope that the length of my posts grow with my ability and confidence
Mi esperas, ke la longo de miaj mesaĝoj pligrandiĝas kune kun la pligrandiĝo de miaj kompetenteco kaj konfido.
Mustelvulpo (Показать профиль) 29 мая 2012 г., 20:41:33
A rule of thumb- if "po" is not directly followed by a number, it is probably being used incorrectly. (There are some exceptions to this when a quantity is expressed in some other way.)
erinja (Показать профиль) 29 мая 2012 г., 23:20:17
hebda999 (Показать профиль) 30 мая 2012 г., 6:32:37
erinja:The rule of thumb that I generally tell English speakers is to translate po as "at a rate of" and always follow it with a number. If you do that, you won't likely go wrong.po grupe
po gute
po iom
po-parta pago
...
Miland (Показать профиль) 30 мая 2012 г., 7:43:28
xdzt:where I'm trying to say: "I hope that the length of my posts grow with my ability and confidence."I might put it Mi esperas, ke la grandeco de miaj mesaĝoj kreskos kune kun miaj memfido kaj posedo de la lingvo. But remember that there are often a number of ways of putting the same thing. No doubt you'll get a number of good suggestions!
sudanglo (Показать профиль) 30 мая 2012 г., 12:03:21
Important- NOT sesdek mejlojn po hore- which I sometimes see).Perhaps not po hore, but used as a prefix po may be followed by any sort of measure.
La pometra kosto de ĉi tiu ŝtofo, la poglasa prezo de la vino, pogranda vendado, prenu la medikamenton pogute ktp.
The difference between ni veturis cent kilometrojn en horo and ni veturis po cent kilometroj en horo is that the first tells you the distance covered in an hour, the second tells you only the speed, and leaves open how many kilometres were covered.
Personally I find Kiom da trajnoj forveturas pohore perfectly acceptable and more elegant than Po kiom da trajnoj forveturas hore (or whatever the strictly correct formulation is considered to be).
And if I can legitimately say Nia pohora rapideco atingis sesdek, why not sesdek pohore?
erinja (Показать профиль) 30 мая 2012 г., 23:58:32
hebda999:As I said, you can't go wrong with following it with a number. I didn't say that this is the only possible correct formula.erinja:The rule of thumb that I generally tell English speakers is to translate po as "at a rate of" and always follow it with a number. If you do that, you won't likely go wrong.po grupe
po gute
po iom
po-parta pago
...
However: "po iom", I would say that in this case, "iom" behaves like a number (like "kelk/" does sometimes, you could also say "po kelkaj" )
In some other cases I would say that there is an understood "unu" that isn't necessarily stated.
People get "po" wrong VERY frequently, so I think it's easier just to tell beginners "always follow it with a number", and they will get in the habit of using it correctly, and they will eventually extend their usage to other correct versions of it.
For a word like "po" that people misunderstand and misuse constantly, I'd rather give a conservative rule.