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dari goliath07, 20 Oktober 2012

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goliath07 (Tunjukkan profil) 20 Oktober 2012 19.50.37

I like to translate song lyrics as a practice. There is so much idiomatic speaking in English music that it helps me to think in Esperanto terms rather than English. So the lyrics that I am having trouble with:

"There's a hole in my neighborhood, down which of late I can not help but fall." I know right?

The best I can think of is

"Estas truo en mia kvartalo, kiun laste mi ne povas ne fali."
I feel like that doesnt express the "INTO THE HOLE" that the english does. So Maybe:

"Estas truo en mia kvartalo, kiun laste mi ne povas en ne fali."

Ne Falu? Ne Fali? I feel like I am using double negatives. Anyone have a poetic idea?

darkweasel (Tunjukkan profil) 20 Oktober 2012 20.41.47

Mi ne povas ne fali is a valid sentence but I still do not understand this either in English or in Esperanto.

goliath07 (Tunjukkan profil) 20 Oktober 2012 21.05.36

darkweasel:Mi ne povas ne fali is a valid sentence but I still do not understand this either in English or in Esperanto.
English must not be your first language. A simple way to say this in English would be "There is a hole in my neighborhood, and lately I can't stop falling into it." or "There is a hole and I keep falling into it even though I don't want to." Does that help?

Google translate says ""Estas truo en mia kvartalo, sube lastatempe mi ne povas helpi sed fali.""

goliath07 (Tunjukkan profil) 20 Oktober 2012 21.14.12

I think Estas truo en mia kvartalo, malsupren lastatempe mi ne povas ne fali. will make more sense

darkweasel (Tunjukkan profil) 20 Oktober 2012 21.27.14

goliath07:
English must not be your first language.
That's true.

Suggestions: Estas truo en mia kvartalo, en kiun mi lastatempe ĉiufoje falas, or ... en kiun mi lastatempe ne povas ne fali.

Do these convey what you want to say?

Fenris_kcf (Tunjukkan profil) 20 Oktober 2012 22.36.27

darkweasel:Mi ne povas ne fali is a valid sentence but I still do not understand this either in English or in Esperanto.
'ne ne fari' = 'fari'
'povi ne fari' = 'ne devi fari'

Kaj tial:

'Mi ne povas ne fali' = 'Mi devas fali'

Hyperboreus (Tunjukkan profil) 21 Oktober 2012 00.29.20

Forigite

erinja (Tunjukkan profil) 21 Oktober 2012 02.18.38

Translate your messages into English, please.

Hyperboreus (Tunjukkan profil) 21 Oktober 2012 02.27.31

Forigite

J_Marc (Tunjukkan profil) 21 Oktober 2012 06.01.32

How deep is a hole? okulumo.gif

How about 'abismo' -- 'abyss', 'chasm' or 'oblivion'. Of course it depends on the rest of the song, whether it's the right word!

Poetry? Well I ain't Dr. Seuss, but try this:

Lastatempe mi neniam malsukcesas fali en tiun abismon en mia hejmurbo.

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