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Troyus23 (Å vise profilen) 2013 2 1 15:10:57
One more humorus(?) question: Does anyone here tinker with LOJBAN?
pdenisowski (Å vise profilen) 2013 2 1 15:28:16
smonkey (Å vise profilen) 2013 2 1 22:49:24
tommjames (Å vise profilen) 2013 2 1 23:11:24
robbkvasnak (Å vise profilen) 2013 2 2 03:17:50
If we put it to komencantoj like that, they may reconsider. I bet they never thought about reforming their mother tongue. As a matter of fact, no, on second thought forget it
pdenisowski (Å vise profilen) 2013 2 2 21:36:02
robbkvasnak:Then we might add a plural to "you"Here in the Carolinas there are actually degrees of plurality :
you - singular
y'all - plural
all y'all - emphatic or extended plural
There's a clear difference in meaning between :
I've had enough of you!
I've had enough of y'all!
I've had enough of all y'all! (with stress on the first "all" )
Amike,
Paul
rheotaxis (Å vise profilen) 2013 2 3 02:43:55
Troyus23:Thanks EVERYONE for your responses! These all pretty much summed up how I feel too!I gave up and started learning toki pona instead, because it is several million time easier!
One more humorus(?) question: Does anyone here tinker with LOJBAN?
jchthys (Å vise profilen) 2013 2 3 02:50:55
rheotaxis:I like toki ponaTroyus23:Thanks EVERYONE for your responses! These all pretty much summed up how I feel too!I gave up and started learning toki pona instead, because it is several million time easier!
One more humorus(?) question: Does anyone here tinker with LOJBAN?
jkph00 (Å vise profilen) 2013 2 3 14:37:34
pdenisowski:AMEN!robbkvasnak:Then we might add a plural to "you"Here in the Carolinas there are actually degrees of plurality :
you - singular
y'all - plural
all y'all - emphatic or extended plural
There's a clear difference in meaning between :
I've had enough of you!
I've had enough of y'all!
I've had enough of all y'all! (with stress on the first "all" )
Amike,
Paul
bartlett22183 (Å vise profilen) 2013 2 3 19:15:15
Troyus23:Thanks EVERYONE for your responses! These all pretty much summed up how I feel too!I am not sure what the current status is, but at one point the Lojban community "baselined" the language, i.e., they declared it fixed for at least some number of years, somewhat in the way of the Fundamento. They realized (as some other conIAL proponents have not) that eventually the tinkering must stop and the using begin. The idea, as I understand it, is that no changes would be allowed during the baseline years, and that thereafter there would only be changes allowed if actual use revealed serious difficulties.
One more humorus(?) question: Does anyone here tinker with LOJBAN?
Endless tinkering is deadly, as we all know here. Unfortunately, the Idists and some Interlinguaists (I have long been in touch with the latter) seem not to realize that fact. They want to go on tinkering forever. "Well, my language has such and such feature, therefore any well behaved conIAL also has to have that feature." (I saw this in some Romance speakers complaining about the lack of a well developed irrealis mood in Interlingua, and some others fought for changes like that in Lingua Franca Nova.)
My question is, Does Auxiliary Language X work well enough as it is after an initial shakedown period? If it does, quit tinkering with it. (I have tangled with some well known Interlinguaists over this, who seem more interested in theoretical purism than half a century of actual use.) Z did the shakedown for E-o, and now it works very well. Design of a constructed auxiliary language is an engineering problem that entails inevitable trade-offs. There is no way around this. In the old saying, One man's meat is another man's poison.
No conIAL design will a priori satisfy everyone. OK, live with it. If it works and you like it, use it. If not, go somewhere else.