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Automatic tranlation and card games

글쓴이: Bruso, 2013년 5월 23일

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언어: English

Bruso (프로필 보기) 2013년 5월 23일 오후 1:38:10

I saw the thread on lernu's German-language forum about card games and started looking up some card-game terminology in Esperanto, mostly via Wikipedia.

Briĝo and Pokero were obvious. I was pleased to find one of my favorites as Kribaĝo.

Initially I didn't find Euchre, but a bit more searching turned up this page ...

http://epo.wikitrans.net/Euchre

... which was done but an automatic translator. But nowhere else can I find that "Euchre" is "Eŭkro", though it's the name I would have come up with myself. Do automatic translators make up likely names by themselves?

The regular Wikipedia article on Rummy (Rumio) had an Esperanto version with no specific mention of Gin Rummy, but again the automatic translator comes up with the (admittedly obvious) Ĝinorumio.

So ... are automatic translation tools coining Esperanto words? As I said, Ĝinorumio and Eŭkro don't google up anywhere outside of these translated webpages.

xdzt (프로필 보기) 2013년 5월 31일 오후 4:50:51

Interesting that automatic translation might be combining words like that, of course it's a problem one would obviously need to approach when trying to create an esperanto translator.

On a separate note, why do these card games need to have names in Esperanto? In English, many (most?) card games retain their original, foreign name -- though naturally the most popular tend to acquire local names. Watten, Mus, Skat, Scopa, Cassino, Tarot...

It just seems like an odd thing to do for any but the most popular of games.

InsaneInter (프로필 보기) 2013년 5월 31일 오후 5:16:36

xdzt:Interesting that automatic translation might be combining words like that, of course it's a problem one would obviously need to approach when trying to create an esperanto translator.

On a separate note, why do these card games need to have names in Esperanto? In English, many (most?) card games retain their original, foreign name -- though naturally the most popular tend to acquire local names. Watten, Mus, Skat, Scopa, Cassino, Tarot...

It just seems like an odd thing to do for any but the most popular of games.
They have Esperanto Tarot cards?! Can you give me a link?

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