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viết bởi Leke, Ngày 01 tháng 8 năm 2013

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Cfail0814 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 14:22:46 Ngày 27 tháng 9 năm 2013

I am very interested in your site sinjoro Claudio!

oxymor (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 14:39:20 Ngày 27 tháng 9 năm 2013

It sounds really good, thank you. I will try it.

Nile (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 00:23:29 Ngày 28 tháng 9 năm 2013

It definitely seems cool.
I just did Esperanto for a couple of minutes, and I noticed that it says "Esperantisto".
The Esperanto word for Esperantist is "Esperantano".

bliubliu (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 16:56:07 Ngày 29 tháng 9 năm 2013

love4gives:Thanks for creating that website, it seems useful ridulo.gif
thanks, we are doing our best. We worked a bit on performance, now we are back on creating and optimizing features. This week new amazing things are coming live ridulo.gif

bliubliu (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 17:04:21 Ngày 29 tháng 9 năm 2013

Nile:It definitely seems cool.
I just did Esperanto for a couple of minutes, and I noticed that it says "Esperantisto".
The Esperanto word for Esperantist is "Esperantano".
we are adding this week a feature to edit mistakes like this, to make our life easy as we have almost 90 languages and it's hard to cope with all of them ridulo.gif

Oijos (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 17:19:58 Ngày 29 tháng 9 năm 2013

bliubliu:
Nile:It definitely seems cool.
I just did Esperanto for a couple of minutes, and I noticed that it says "Esperantisto".
The Esperanto word for Esperantist is "Esperantano".
we are adding this week a feature to edit mistakes like this, to make our life easy as we have almost 90 languages and it's hard to cope with all of them ridulo.gif
The Esperanto word for Esperantist is NOT Esperantano. It is a different concept. I don't know the context, but I conjecture you (Nile) are wrong.

lagtendisto (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 20:22:45 Ngày 29 tháng 9 năm 2013

Oijos:The Esperanto word for Esperantist is NOT Esperantano. It is a different concept. I don't know the context, but I conjecture you (Nile) are wrong.
But Samideano also seems to keep some similar idea like Esperantisto.

Oijos (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 22:04:11 Ngày 29 tháng 9 năm 2013

Isn't the English word Esperantist an Esperanto loanword?

Usually:

Esperantist = Esperantisto

Esperantano = a person, who is supportive of Esperanto, but not a speaker (maybe he is learning or is waiting that other people in sufficient numbers begin to study it with him OR just finds the idea worthy of support but thinks it isn't ever going to take off)

Menciindas, that Esperantist is not a common word in English or even easily understandable. Better word would be Esperantophone in my mind.

Nile (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 17:28:01 Ngày 30 tháng 9 năm 2013

My source:
http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/affixes.html
"There is an unfortunate tendency to use -ist where -an should be used"

erinja (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 17:57:36 Ngày 30 tháng 9 năm 2013

If you want to talk about the community at large, I can definitively say that "esperantisto" is the most common word for an Esperanto speaker, whether you happen to agree or disagree with this particular usage.

You may have misunderstood Don's page. The page doesn't say that "esperantano" is the term that is used; Don is saying that the use of "esperantisto" isn't logical, and that "esperantano" is more logical, in his opinion. Community usage isn't always the most logical possible choice. You can decide for yourself whether you choose to use the word that the rest of the Esperanto speaking community uses (esperantisto) or whether you want to stand basically alone with your usage and use a word that pretty much no one uses, but that some people might argue is more logical (esperantano).

If you want to speak about Don's own usage - I am unaware of a place where he actually used the word "esperantano" in his own writing, in spite of his suggestion on his website that it might be more logical. He seems to have used "esperantisto" like everyone else.

I have seen something to suggest that an "esperantano" would be a person who supports the idea of Esperanto but doesn't actually speak it; that would be a word with a separate meaning from "esperantisto".

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