(Possibles) correlectations between Lernu's examenes level and CEFR?
viết bởi Uridium, Ngày 20 tháng 9 năm 2013
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Uridium (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 23:13:25 Ngày 20 tháng 9 năm 2013
A-Base with sublevels A1 and A2;
B-Medium with sublevels B1 and B2;
C-Advanced with sublevels C1 and C2.
Now, as you certainly know, The three exams here in Lernu! are divides in baza, meza kaj alta; i imagine (just supposition) that these exams are maded from teachers or experts, and also that they follow rules of very Esperanto's exams for build them.
So, maybe exist a correlation between this (or another) language-skill classification?
Ex: maybe meza exam counts as a B-level of CEFR?
Sorry if im annoying you with this silly question: mine is just curiosity.
Gxis revido!
Cfail0814 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 00:18:28 Ngày 21 tháng 9 năm 2013
sudanglo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 11:50:46 Ngày 21 tháng 9 năm 2013
Therefore grading in Esperanto requires different criteria to those applicable to command of national languages.
novatago (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 13:14:33 Ngày 21 tháng 9 năm 2013
sudanglo:The whole problem with the Common European Reference Levels for grading language skills is that what may be difficult in a national language may be easy in Esperanto (or irrelevant) and vice versa.In fact you should take a look here: http://www.edukado.net/ekzamenoj/ker
Therefore grading in Esperanto requires different criteria to those applicable to command of national languages.
I mean that even if you are right, the whole thing is ready since 2008, and a kind of official title (certainly official and valid if you are hungarian) from state university of Budapest is given if one pass the exam.
Ĝis, Novatago.
sudanglo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 20:23:05 Ngày 21 tháng 9 năm 2013
But it is a bit fraudulent intellectually.
You just can't apply some of the measures that are part of this assessment to Esperanto, and the implied path of progression from poor to high level command of a national language is not the same as the path recognized by the Esperantists themselves from komencanto to spertulo.
novatago (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 21:28:51 Ngày 21 tháng 9 năm 2013
sudanglo:But it is a bit fraudulent intellectually.I can agree that the progress in learning Esperanto is very different than in learning any other european language but the question is: Do you really know the way they did it? Or are you talking just because Esperanto grammar is this way or that other way? I don't know if they had in their mind those differences (actually I can't imagine they don't) but perhaps they thought about that without compromise the rules of the European Reference. In fact they didn't prepared any A level exam and perhaps (probably) it's because in a european context (don't forget that this regulation is european) is just ridiculous to have an A level in Esperanto. In any case since there are levels of communication skills in esperanto, for sure is not a problem to find an equivalence to other regular lenguages.
You just can't apply some of the measures that are part of this assessment to Esperanto, and the implied path of progression from poor to high level command of a national language is not the same as the path recognized by the Esperantists themselves from komencanto to spertulo.
Ĝis, Novatago.
erinja (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 00:29:34 Ngày 22 tháng 9 năm 2013