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jkph00 (顯示個人資料) 2014年3月8日下午5:59:03
johnnotegbert:Johnnotegbert, Sudanglo has a beautiful style of writing. I find one could do much worse indeed than to emulate it.sudanglo:I only turned it round and used ricevi for stylistic reasons.Yes, I see how ricevi makes the sentence nicer. Thank you!
morfran (顯示個人資料) 2014年3月13日上午12:37:38
Hodiaŭ estas la 12a de marto.
Mi naskiĝis je la 12a de marto. = Mi naskiĝis la 12an de marto.
Using -n with dates only works when the verb is intransitive, since one can have only one thing in the accusative per sentence:
Mi skribis ĉi tion je la 12 de marto.
(not Mi skribis ĉi tion la 12an de marto)
Eltwish (顯示個人資料) 2014年3月13日上午1:39:55
morfran:I'm not sure about this. In PMEG you can find sentences with two -n endings:
Using -n with dates only works when the verb is intransitive, since one can have only one thing in the accusative per sentence:
"Merkredon mi kantos, kaj, se vi havas tempon, mi sendos al vi bileton."
"Ĉu vi permesos al mi pendigi tiun ĉi kanajlon sub la ĉielo la kapon malsupren?"
Neither is as overt as something like "Mi faros tion merkredon," but that doesn't seem wrong to me, just maybe a bit inelegant. (On a linguistic note, this is why I prefer to say just "-n ending" or something like it -- marking accusative case is only one of the uses of -n; in its other roles it is marking a more general oblique case. Though I suppose you could argue that "accusative" is more general in Esperanto. However you want to slice it.)
Clarence666 (顯示個人資料) 2014年3月13日上午10:23:02
sudanglo:As regards the case for the date after hodiaŭ, I think you might use either 'hodiaŭ, la 13-a de aprilo' or 'hodiaŭ, la 13-an de aprilo, the latter feeling somehow more emphatic.Mi havas interesan rilatan demandon | I have an interesting related question
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dato
http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601
Kiel elparoli la daton? (mi absolute volas konservi la bonegan ordon YYYY-MM-DD) | (I absolutely want to keep the great order YYYY-MM-DD)
2014-12-31 -> "mi naskigxis je du mil dek kvar en decembro la tridek unua" ???
http://bertilow.com/pmeg/gramatiko/nombroj/vorteto...
Rugxdoma (顯示個人資料) 2014年3月13日下午7:50:23
morfran:It depends on how you define "accusative". The Detailed Grammar of lernu! gives some exemples where you have several endings -N close together, like "Mi metis ĝin sur vian tablon". The only real restriction is that the same verb shall not have two N-objects. Thus "doni gxin al li", not "*doni lin gxin".Eltwish:I'm not sure about this.No, you’re right; I misspoke. One thing in the accusative per clause, not sentence.
