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veturi vs vojaĝi

ya flootzavut, 9 Februari 2015

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flootzavut (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 9 Februari 2015 8:55:42 alasiri

veturi vs vojaĝi

Is anyone able to explain/elucidate the difference between these two verbs? I came across them from different sources, and neither source so far has given me an understanding of what travel is described by which verb. I'm fairly used to having more than one verb of motion (russophone shoko.gif) but I can't seem to figure out or find what the differentiation is between these two.

vikungen (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 9 Februari 2015 9:52:56 alasiri

flootzavut:veturi vs vojaĝi

Is anyone able to explain/elucidate the difference between these two verbs? I came across them from different sources, and neither source so far has given me an understanding of what travel is described by which verb. I'm fairly used to having more than one verb of motion (russophone shoko.gif) but I can't seem to figure out or find what the differentiation is between these two.
Veturi is "to go by vehicle; to ride (around); to travel." Veturilo = (“vehicle”)

- "Mi veturis tien per buso"
(I travelled there by bus)

Vojaĝi is "(intransitive) to travel"

- "Mi ĉiam volus vojaĝi al Ĉinio."
(I have always wanted to travel to China.)

flootzavut (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 10 Februari 2015 1:16:35 asubuhi

Ahhhhh, thank you! That makes sense now ridulo.gif thank you very much ridego.gif (wow, that smilie is disturbingly enthused hahaha)

jdawdy (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 11 Februari 2015 7:30:40 asubuhi

Correct me if I am wrong, but the sense I get is that vojaĝi is the indefinite, general sense of "travel" in the sense of "a journey" or "to journey" or "to voyage". Whereas veturi is specifically to travel by some means.

In other words, you wouldn't say "Mi amas veturi", but rather "Mi amas vojaĝi". However, you could say "Mi amas veturi mian biciklon". And you wouldn't say "Mi vojaĝos hejmon per aviadilo", but rather "Mi veturos hejmon per aviadilo".

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sudanglo (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 11 Februari 2015 11:20:33 asubuhi

However, you could say "Mi amas veturi mian biciklon"
With certain modes of transport there are specific verbs.

Oni rajdas sur ĉevalo, oni rajdas biciklon, or biciklas. Or if you are a witch vi rajdas sur balailo. In any case you can't veturi biciklon - veturi doesn't take an object.

The object of veturigi is usually the object or person that is being transported. Ĉu vi povas veturigi min al la stacidomo - Can you give me a lift/drive me to the station.

You could say Ni veturigis la biciklojn per ŝipo al la insulo. But that wouldn't mean that you rode the bicycles on a ship.

Christa627 (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 11 Februari 2015 11:29:52 alasiri

"Vojagxi" seems to me to imply a longer distance; for example, if I live in Colorado, and drive to Oregon, I would say either "Mi veturas al Oregono" or "Mi vojagxas al Oregono". But I would not say "Mi vojagxas al la vendejo", I would say "Mi veturas al la vendejo". If I go to China, I would be more likely to use "vojagxi".

Tempodivalse (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 12 Februari 2015 1:06:10 asubuhi

Oni rajdas sur ĉevalo, oni rajdas biciklon, or biciklas. Or if you are a witch vi rajdas sur balailo. In any case you can't veturi biciklon - veturi doesn't take an object.
But: veturi per biciklo, or as I would more likely say, veturi bicikle. You can sometimes "cheat" an intransitive verb by making the would-be direct object an adverb.

Can't one use rajdi intransitively also?

nornen (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 12 Februari 2015 2:57:34 asubuhi

Tempodivalse:Can't one use rajdi intransitively also?
Yes we can. The first occurrence of rajd/ in the Ekzercaro de la lingvo internacia «Esperanto» is the following:

LLZ:Kiu kuraĝas rajdi sur leono?
Intransitive in this case.

jdawdy (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 12 Februari 2015 8:24:17 asubuhi

sudanglo:
However, you could say "Mi amas veturi mian biciklon"
With certain modes of transport there are specific verbs.

Oni rajdas sur ĉevalo, oni rajdas biciklon, or biciklas. Or if you are a witch vi rajdas sur balailo. In any case you can't veturi biciklon - veturi doesn't take an object.

The object of veturigi is usually the object or person that is being transported. Ĉu vi povas veturigi min al la stacidomo - Can you give me a lift/drive me to the station.
Dankon! That's a very helpful point.

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