Sunjo:Not exactly what you are looking for, but maybe a step in the right direction? http://monda.eu/eo/modules

Thank you, I went through the site and found that it is much in a macro level but not for the management and administration of office.

The late teen school leavers are needed to have what is office procedure and how it is needed in simple accounting.

The issue of world food shortage may not help them to get a job or start their own petty traders.

Something to hlep the early 20s just got out from the high school, of course, the system of education is different. What the LCCI courses are very good

Think on vocational training, and Thailand, Cambodia, Loas would have lots of these demand and Esperanto would set roots there.

Certainly, there are equipments needed as I said, begin with a empty four walls subject, management and administration and later more on to other subjects.

Of course, Esperanto is included as a subject as most countries in the world do not teach Esperanto yet besides Hungary. (massive scale, Hungary education department recognised Esperanton)

robbkvasnak:Whooooaaa! So what is wrong with marching in a Gay Pride Parade? Maybe what would make our culture unpalatable would be a bunch of religious fanatics trying to dictate their personal theology to the rest of the world.

it's not just religious fanatics. Some of us same-sex attracted folks find the parades in the more "gay friendly" cities to be quite disgusting.

robbvasnak: that is what I meant with the comment about religious fiction in reference the literature referred to as biblical. In my eyes, it is fiction but I am not imposing this view on anyone, just stating it.

THEE may not be, but the same can most certainly NOT be said about a large portion of the people in "Nekredantujo."

robbvasnak: But DO NOT TRY TO IMPOSE YOUR PERSONAL VIEWS ON THE THEORIES OR DIVINITY on the rest of us. Our personal beliefs have NOTHING to do with the success or failure of Esperanto as an international medium of communication.

As to the first half of this, the same could be said for the opposite side. For the second part, I'd have to say that's not entirely true. The preponderance of leftism and "weirdness" has VERY MUCH to do with it! The fact that this preponderance is even mentioned as a reason for not wanting to learn the language is prima facie evidence.

Thank you for the participation on this topic but it looks like it is more of a personal damage comment more than constructive ones.

If anyone interested, please start a new topic and we can discuss more details and bring in the possible realisation ideas.

If Esperanto is going to be an international language, the gigolo, the porn, the cheaters will be using Esperanto. How one cannot allow these traders to use Esperanto ?

With an open mind and hold on to some principle like no synonym and simple vocabulary would help those without language talents to have a means to participate in the world activities.

In fact, the UEA to UN and UNESCO should speak in Esperanto instead of the UN official languages, listen to the PM of India, Mr MODI, did he speak in English ?

The rules in UN did not solely demand to speak the 6 official languages. But the UEA is too timid to walk a step ahead.

The Esperanto volunteer programme is not well received by the Esperantujo. What they care about is the universal congress and let the poor Cambodians die of contracted HIV.

The Olympic is once in 4 years with lots of sponsors comes in but UK got nothing but the Cannada and Korea are battling for the right to host the next UK. I have withdrawn myself my the membership of UEA since i got to know none of the current batch of the committe members, their family members speak Esperanto.

How to sell the goods when your family members are not using it ?

UK kills the local meets and regional meets.

The esperantists are not promoting the esperanto volunteer programme, rather than let the volunteers being cheated by the volunteer company, a Dutch lady taught English in Cambodia. Gosh, 3 months can learn 30 words with Dutch accent?

Those who are sitting cosily in front of the computer arguing yes and no of Esperanto, if they can go out to let more people know about UNESCO recommended language, more people can be saved from street child in ASEAN and being sold as prostitutes.

Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Indonesia, the Philippines etc, the so called Volunteer travelling is attracted young people to rush into these countries.

If we have 30 Esperanto speakers in Cambodia a year, the people locally would know Esperanto is usable. Volunteers are not only in teaching English, teach them in the rice fields. Now the problem is can we get the expert of agriculture in Esperanto ?

Go on and on, the kongresoj and kongresoj, nothing is fruitful.

se:UK kills the local meets and regional meets.

No. It's the other way round. Local and regional meetups kill UK or at least harm it.

UKs partcipant numbers are declining whereas the activities in Local, regional, national and maybe even continental meetings is increasing. Many people cannot afford or do not want to undertake an intercontinental travel in order to attend UK. So they attend a meeting in their region, country, continent.

johmue:

se:UK kills the local meets and regional meets.

No. It's the other way round. Local and regional meetups kill UK or at least harm it.

UKs partcipant numbers are declining whereas the activities in Local, regional, national and maybe even continental meetings is increasing. Many people cannot afford or do not want to undertake an intercontinental travel in order to attend UK. So they attend a meeting in their region, country, continent.

Genuine question: Is this a bad thing or a good thing?

johmue:

se:UK kills the local meets and regional meets.

No. It's the other way round. Local and regional meetups kill UK or at least harm it.

UKs partcipant numbers are declining whereas the activities in Local, regional, national and maybe even continental meetings is increasing. Many people cannot afford or do not want to undertake an intercontinental travel in order to attend UK. So they attend a meeting in their region, country, continent.

Think hard. Does UK need to be held each year ? Which is more important ? More local people can speak Esperanto or one and a few can speak Esperanto ? Do you think China has more than 1000 good Esperanto speakers ?

Who can afford to fly half the world to participate the UK ?

Only the rich and elites can do so.

More professional congresses should be held like KAEST and Esperanto Medicine Congress.

Who has that much of time to attend several international congresses in a year from the eastern part of the world to the western part of the globe.

The role of UK should be reduced and the other international professional congresses should be increased. Don't blame the participates are declined. The UEA is stupid. Thinking UEA is the sole association to rule the world and blaming the participants. UEA does not grow with the internet epoch.

If there is a Esperanto song contest locally which can attract 200 contestants, that would be better than the UK.

Another question, why the Couchsurfing can make money and Pasporta Servo cannot make money.

It looks like UEA and TEJO are waiting for donation instead of finding money and make profit.

UEA and TEJO need to have a course of management and leadership. If the rule says like the commercial firm, if you cannot earn money, the leader should pack and go. There would be no one in UEA and TEJO.

The simple thing to use youtube for the event live is always neglected.

If the Americans from the south cannot afford for the cost of participation of national congress in the north, would that be the good idea? It is similar in China, Indonesia which has 17,000 islands. Some Chinese may not be able to visit Beijing the whole life due to the financial difficulties,and people expecting them to take part in UK in Argentine.

Here is what Graham Moore said while accepting an Oscar:
http://www.advocate.com/oscars/2015/02/23/screenwr...

According to this link under the heading of "What does the AIS do?" the University of San Marino, in the Republic of San Marino, offers University level courses on a variety of topics in Esperanto, and accreditation of courses by other universities.

nornen:

johmue:

se:UK kills the local meets and regional meets.

No. It's the other way round. Local and regional meetups kill UK or at least harm it.

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Genuine question: Is this a bad thing or a good thing?

It depends.

It is a good thing, that there the local and regional activities are increasing. The interesting question will be how UK will react. On recent UKs there were some discussions about that. But I don't want to discuss that in detail here in the English forum.

se:The UEA is stupid.

Well, maybe.

Yet, critisizing in an English speaking forum won't change anything. If you ever participated UK or did some other activities in Esperantujo, you'd know that there are by far enough critics in the movement. Even ones that can express themselves in Esperanto.

What the movement does need is people who start endevours, not just suggest them or complaining that noone else is starting them. So if you think that there can be made money with Pasporta Servo, why don't you set up such a service? The money would be yours.

Yes, there should be more congresses like KAEST: organize them.

The one, who's blaming here most, is you.

By the way: Why are we discussing this in English?