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dnaleor (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 23:29:02 Ngày 17 tháng 4 năm 2015
I'm a member of a cryptocommunity around a coin called 'monero' and we are trying to create a physical coin with a reference to esperanto. Therefore, I want to double check some translationns. If you have better alternatives please post them
Some background: monero is a highly privacy oriented cryptocoin, unlike bitcoin where all transactions are in a public ledger. We value privacy because it's a human right. Without privacy there is no freedom.
#1: "Sekurigas liberecon per financa privateco" : (we) secure freedom through financial privacy
#2: "forte el nombroj" : strength from numbers (as in 'math' )
I already checked these translations with some members of the dutch speaking esperanto community, but we want some more opinions. Maybe some of you have more 'catchy' ideas than us
We certainly don't want mistakes or silly sounding sentences engraved on our physical coins.
thanks in advance!
Christa627 (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 23:33:35 Ngày 17 tháng 4 năm 2015
dnaleor:I don't know for sure about your first sentence, but "forte el nombroj" would be "strongly from numbers". Like maybe it's strongly made of numbers...
#2: "forte el nombroj" : strength from numbers (as in 'math' )
noelekim (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 02:13:13 Ngày 18 tháng 4 năm 2015
dnaleor:"En numeroj estas forto" would look good on coins.
#2: "forte el nombroj" : strength from numbers (as in 'math' )
Altebrilas (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 09:41:09 Ngày 18 tháng 4 năm 2015
sudanglo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 11:00:10 Ngày 18 tháng 4 năm 2015
1. Nombro (quantity - large or small)
2. Numero (as in phone/house/membership number)
3. Cifero (digit/numeral - the representation)
'strength from numbers' is a bit vague.
Is your currency strong because of some underlying quantitative characteristic?
Is your currency strong because of the digital encoding?
Strength/noun = forto; strong/adjective = forta; in a strong way/adverb = forte.
'From' could be:
1. el (made out of, selected from, coming from)
2. pro (because of)
3. per (by means of)
My suggestion for your slogan el ciferoj venas forto.
sudanglo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 11:23:22 Ngày 18 tháng 4 năm 2015
we are trying to create a physical coinThen what has maths got to do with it?
Tempodivalse (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 18:10:31 Ngày 18 tháng 4 năm 2015
sudanglo:My suggestion for your slogan el ciferoj venas forto.Seconded!
dnaelor:#1: "Sekurigas liberecon per financa privateco" : (we) secure freedom through financial privacyYou should be aware this isn't a full-formed sentence - it's missing the overt subject, ni (we). If you're looking for maximal conciseness on the coin though, maybe you can leave it dropped.
dnaleor (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 16:04:27 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2015
Tempodivalse:and what about the imperative?sudanglo:My suggestion for your slogan el ciferoj venas forto.Seconded!
dnaelor:#1: "Sekurigas liberecon per financa privateco" : (we) secure freedom through financial privacyYou should be aware this isn't a full-formed sentence - it's missing the overt subject, ni (we). If you're looking for maximal conciseness on the coin though, maybe you can leave it dropped.
"Sekurigu liberecon per financa privateco"
Does that sound better?
edit: is there some sort of "soft imperative" (adhortativus) like in latin?
How to translate "let us secure freedom" in esperanto?
dnaleor (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 16:06:56 Ngày 19 tháng 4 năm 2015
Christa627:yeah, it was a typo. i meant to type "forto el nombroj" but I guess this isn't the best option. If there are other suggestions, please, let me knowdnaleor:I don't know for sure about your first sentence, but "forte el nombroj" would be "strongly from numbers". Like maybe it's strongly made of numbers...
#2: "forte el nombroj" : strength from numbers (as in 'math' )
sudanglo (Xem thông tin cá nhân) 11:40:34 Ngày 20 tháng 4 năm 2015
edit: is there some sort of "soft imperative"Sometimes you will see the infinitive used for instructions (eg for labelling operation boxes on a computer screen).
Also the accusative can be used in a sort of exhortative manner implying some understood verb -eg for la manojn! (take your hands off); la monon nun! (give me/us the money now)
So you might say (slogane) Liberon per mono privata!
Let us' is normally translated by ni + imperative.