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Tempodivalse (User's profile) May 4, 2015, 4:27:03 AM
Piron, for example, talks of certain lexical terms "spreading" throughout the "diaspora" during the language's evolution (Sec. 10).
I found this an interesting way of describing Esperanto - by essentially comparing it to languages like Yiddish or Yoruba. There are fewer characteristics shared by Esperantists than by speakers of those languages (e.g., ethnicity, religion). I always think of Esperantists as a deeply diverse lot, with almost nothing uniting them but the language. Yet the comparison still seems plausible.
Alkanadi (User's profile) May 4, 2015, 1:44:27 PM
Tempodivalse (User's profile) May 4, 2015, 6:39:03 PM
Outwardly, in terms of number of speakers, geographic distribution, and possibly evolution, Esperanto is quite similar to Armenian, Yiddish, etc. So why would the "Esperanto diaspora" be a misnomer? Is it just the lack of an ethnic cohesion?
Raumistoj often treat Esperanto like a diaspora language - e.g., it's a minority language, let us preserve its history, heritage, for its own sake, etc.
Alkanadi (User's profile) May 5, 2015, 8:31:06 AM
Tempodivalse:A related question is, Does Esperanto's evolution mirror that of diaspora languages? Or is there no significant difference in the way diaspora and non-diaspora language evolve? My suspicion is that there is a difference, but I have very little knowledge on the subject.I don't know much about it either. I think a diaspora language is one that exists for the sake of preserving cultural identity.
One difference that I can point out is that Esperanto is not spoken for the sake of identity. I don't think.
Tempodivalse (User's profile) May 5, 2015, 8:12:56 PM
Alkanadi:One difference that I can point out is that Esperanto is not spoken for the sake of identity. I don't think.That is perhaps not so uncontroversial, though ... cf. Raumism.
Wikipedia:Raumism turns away from goals like finvenkismo and emphasizes instead the fact that the Esperanto-speaking community has itself become a culture, worthy of preservation and promotion for its own sake.I am not unsympathetic with this position, but it would be illuminating to hear what self-professed Raumists (or finvenkistoj) have to say.
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