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Kiom & Kioma
ca, kivuye
Ubutumwa 6
ururimi: English
AmericanBull (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 21 Mukakaro 2015 19:02:10
tommjames (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 21 Mukakaro 2015 19:14:52
"Kioma" doesn't enquire about kind or type, as far as I know. You could translate it to English as "how manyeth".
orthohawk (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 21 Mukakaro 2015 19:15:44
AmericanBull:I can see the difference in what kind of questions kiom and kioma are asking, but I can't recall a time when anyone has ever asked me "what kind of time is it?". Is there a more practical way of understanding the kioma question, or is it more of an exercise in the theory in the combination of affixes and still being able to extract sensible meaning?The problem here is that English has no "ordinal" form of "how much" like it has with the acual numbers (1 > first; 2 > second, etc). Du is to dua as kiom is to kioma.
So basically what one is saying when asking "kioma horo estas" (what time is it) is "which-th hour is it?" which of course is answered as "estas la dua horo (it is the second hour)"
Tempodivalse (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 21 Mukakaro 2015 19:40:34
There is nothing wrong with making an adjective out of the adverbial correlatives, when you want them to modify a noun directly.
Tioma drinkado estas malbona por la sano. - That much drinking isn't good for health.
Ĉiama - eternal.
Vestitor (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 21 Mukakaro 2015 20:19:58
orthohawk:Oh? So what explains constructions like 'at the eleventh hour' then? Or the rather formal: 'What's the hour?' when referring to the time?
The problem here is that English has no "ordinal" form of "how much" like it has with the acual numbers (1 > first; 2 > second, etc). Du is to dua as kiom is to kioma.
orthohawk (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 22 Mukakaro 2015 13:28:31
Vestitor:I guess I don't understand what thee is asking about? what's to "explain"?orthohawk:Oh? So what explains constructions like 'at the eleventh hour' then? Or the rather formal: 'What's the hour?' when referring to the time?
The problem here is that English has no "ordinal" form of "how much" like it has with the acual numbers (1 > first; 2 > second, etc). Du is to dua as kiom is to kioma.