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Keel: English
Alkanadi (Näita profiili) 6. august 2015 14:11.12
Mankas Virinoj en Esperantujo
KStef (Näita profiili) 6. august 2015 16:21.33
(Sorry for my mistakes. Correct them, please).
bdlingle (Näita profiili) 6. august 2015 17:09.43
KStef:I've just remembered myself that in the EU government they think in government should be (at least) 35% of women. They think women should have a better chance to win electionsI can help friend!
(Sorry for my mistakes. Correct them, please).
You could say: I've just remembered that in the EU, they think, that in the government it should be(at least) made of 35% of women. They think that women should have better chance at winning elections
oreso (Näita profiili) 6. august 2015 18:30.57
So, although I can't say I mind about absolute numbers, as long as there's no actual discrimination against any particular group, it's fine by me.
I have to say SES, at least, seemed aggressively welcoming.
Vestitor (Näita profiili) 6. august 2015 18:55.45
oreso:Need more X? Why? People are free to be interested in what they like, and it might be that learning languages is more interesting, on average, to older people and to guys than it is to younger people and to girls...That's the thing though. Think of sciences like Physics. Is it that fewer women are interested in physics, or that the whole area is quite a male place? How long has it taken for women's football to be properly accepted? I don't think you can measure interest by participation because there may be (usually are) obstacles for certain people and groups.
So, although I can't say I mind about absolute numbers, as long as there's no actual discrimination against any particular group, it's fine by me.
oreso (Näita profiili) 6. august 2015 20:46.09
Vestitor:That's the thing though. Think of sciences like Physics. Is it that fewer women are interested in physics, or that the whole area is quite a male place? How long has it taken for women's football to be properly accepted? I don't think you can measure interest by participation because there may be (usually are) obstacles for certain people and groups.You say 'usually' but I don't think we should assume either way. I mean, my English literature classes were 'quite a female place' and I'm fairly certain most knitting groups are too, but that's not to say I would face discrimination in either place. Maybe I would, but I'm not gonna assume. And, from my limited exposure at least, Esperantujo seems far more diverse than those places anyhow.
Vestitor (Näita profiili) 6. august 2015 21:32.51
Like you say though, Esperantujo is probably more diverse than the norm.
erinja (Näita profiili) 6. august 2015 22:27.45
Whatever the reasons in any given country, I think a skewed demographic is hard to reverse without conscious work. Even a very welcoming group of all white men, by their very existence, might present subtle signals to a woman or a non-white person that "this hobby isn't popular with people like me, maybe it's not for me after all". Same thing if a white man walks into an Esperanto meeting and it's all black women. Even if they are super welcoming, he might feel weird about it and he might be disinclined to return.
Vestitor (Näita profiili) 6. august 2015 22:32.11
erinja:Same thing if a white man walks into an Esperanto meeting and it's all black women. Even if they are super welcoming, he might feel weird about it and he might be disinclined to return.I think I'd want to stay, but that might just be me.
erinja (Näita profiili) 6. august 2015 22:34.30