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Vestitor (نمایش مشخصات) 19 اوت 2015، 17:11:28
Alkanadi:It doesn't kill crime, it just changes the nature of it. If the number of numpties 'campaigning' for legalisation of weed would put quite as much effort into something like campaigning for anti-poverty policy, they'd find that weed consumption would fall among many groups.Vestitor:A lot of people between 13-25 wasting their lives away because weed makes you lethargic, too relaxed and thus kills motivation.That is why it kills crime. That is the real way to fight crime.
But, I would hate to see people wasting their lives. Oh well, it is better than drinking alcohol.
Tempodivalse (نمایش مشخصات) 19 اوت 2015، 17:41:16
If legality of intoxicants or drugs were based on actual harm caused, alcohol would likely be illegal (and tobacco). I've never heard of someone dying from a marijuana overdose - though it's probably pretty damaging long-term.
erinja (نمایش مشخصات) 19 اوت 2015، 17:45:25
Tempodivalse:The more major problem among youth, I'd say, is alcohol - the amount consumed on college campuses is astounding.Think so? My crowd did not drink that much in college. I heard that university alcohol consumption is less than we think it is, and that it actually reduces drinking to post signage around saying that most students don't get drunk all the time. Because when you post stuff saying how students drink a lot and they should stop, it actually make students think that everyone else is drinking a ton, so they also need to do this! I really knew very few people in school who drank what seemed to me to be an unreasonable amount.
Tempodivalse (نمایش مشخصات) 19 اوت 2015، 17:55:05
I really knew very few people in school who drank what seemed to me to be an unreasonable amount.It may be a matter of personal experience - some campuses are more known for a party environment than others. (Mine, incidentally, mostly isn't considered a party school.) I've heard that the average consumption of alcohol among youth has gradually decreased over the decades.
Still, the NIH's statistics indicate a continuing problem - 1800+ alcohol-related deaths yearly among the 18-24 demographic, to say nothing of rapes and assaults, and long-term academic/psychological problems.
I'm not aware of similar statistics about the harm caused by marijuana, but I would guess it's not as severe, at least in the short- to mid-term.
Vestitor (نمایش مشخصات) 19 اوت 2015، 18:24:12
Tempodivalse:That's probably because in a lot of countries you need to 'know someone' to buy it. Alcohol is far easier to obtain. Those quacking about legalisation forget this. For alcohol it's probably just as well because illegal alcohol is often murderous stuff.
I'm not aware of similar statistics about the harm caused by marijuana, but I would guess it's not as severe, at least in the short- to mid-term.
Alcohol is very intertwined into the culture now, that pandora's box is open. So what makes people think that opening more of them is a great idea? Stick it in a shop window with some marketing campaign behind it and people will go in and buy it.
In Western Europe the statistics for youth drinking have been falling year on year. I don't know the reasons for this.
Tempodivalse (نمایش مشخصات) 19 اوت 2015، 18:36:10
The government could probably do a lot more to reduce alcohol abuse (especially among youth) - such as prohibiting alcohol-related advertising, which is already done in the case of tobacco. Just because that Pandora's box is open dosn't mean it can't be contained.
Leke (نمایش مشخصات) 19 اوت 2015، 19:12:59
Alkanadi:My wife's hair started falling out when she was 19, and she's never taken any drugs in her life.
I agree. But, I have some doubts about psychedelics. There was a girl who was doing Ecstacy in our highschool and her hair started falling out. What else is she damaging?
Street Ecstasy can have crap in there which has nothing to do with MDMA, which is why I would never take it. It's also interesting how the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration has just approved the first clinical trial using MDMA to treat anxiety: http://alj.am/1bdXxfi
Leke (نمایش مشخصات) 19 اوت 2015، 19:29:36
Vestitor:In Finland we found it to be because of cannabis and energy drinks. http://yle.fi/uutiset/survey_-_finnish_teens_ditch...
In Western Europe the statistics for youth drinking have been falling year on year. I don't know the reasons for this.
orthohawk1 (نمایش مشخصات) 22 اوت 2015، 16:01:09
Alkanadi:What is your opinion about street drugs?As long as one is not trying to force others to use them and is of legal age, I say, let 'em. If they're stupid enough to take chances with these substances, well, the gene pool will be stronger in the end.
RiotNrrd (نمایش مشخصات) 22 اوت 2015، 18:22:21
The government is rubbing their hands with glee in anticipation of the high tax revenues. Which I bet will be pretty good at first.
However, although there are restrictions (cannot be seen from a public street, etc.), the amounts people are legally allowed to grow themselves of a substance which grows literally like a weed are enormous. I believe each household can have up to four adult plants, and quite a few more immature plants, and can possess (I believe) up to eight ounces (i.e., half a pound, although I might be wrong and it's only four ounces; I don't remember the details) of dried material at any given time.
The thing is, adult marijuana plants can easily provide half a pound *each*, and up to two pounds each if you know what you're doing.
The math works out such that I predict marijuana in Oregon is going to become something akin to smokable zucchini at some point. If we aren't growing it ourselves, we probably will know someone who is. Individuals aren't allowed to sell it, but they *are* allowed to give it away, and it sounds to me like there's going to potentially be a lot of excess material that people are going to want to get rid of to stay under the legal limits for possession, but not waste (if you know what I mean; simply burning or composting it would be seen amongst these types of growers as wasting it).