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Language: English
JoeyJoJo (User's profile) September 29, 2015, 7:49:31 PM
For context, one character is accusing another character of poisoning someone.
jefusan (User's profile) September 29, 2015, 8:52:23 PM
JoeyJoJo:"I'm going to have that medicine analyzed!"That's a good question: Is there an Esperanto equivalent to the English causative (to have something done)?
Would you use the word "farigo" somehow? "Mi farigos tiun medikamenton analizita"(???)
You could avoid that construction by saying something like "Mi ordonos al iu analizi tiun medikamenton!" ("I'm going to tell someone to analyze that medicine!" ) But it loses something in translation.
Mustelvulpo (User's profile) September 29, 2015, 8:58:44 PM
jefusan (User's profile) September 29, 2015, 9:04:31 PM
noelekim (User's profile) September 30, 2015, 3:53:48 AM
jefusan:Mi igos iun analizi tiun medikamenton.A few more alternatives ...
:: mi sendos tiun medikamenton al analizejo
:: mi petos ke tiu medikamento estu analizita
:: mi aranĝos submetigi tiun medikamenton al analizo
nornen (User's profile) September 30, 2015, 4:41:37 AM
Mi analizigos tiun medikamenton.
From a syntactic point of view, it is unclear whether medikamenton is the agent or patient of analizi (which is always the case in Esperanto with causatives of transitive verbs), but from a semantic point of view it should be obvious.
ustra (User's profile) September 30, 2015, 7:57:21 AM
tommjames (User's profile) September 30, 2015, 8:35:01 AM
nornen:Wouldn't a simple causative with -ig- suffice?Yes this form is fine and IMO is the best way of phrasing it.
Mi analizigos tiun medikamenton.
sudanglo (User's profile) September 30, 2015, 11:17:53 AM
This seems to me to work like 'mi prezentos la aferon por diskutado'.
From the Tekstaro:
ŝi devas submeti sian himenon al la ekzameno de ..
See also in PIV submeti (2) 'prezenti al ies priagado'
Edit - you could also say:
Mi intencas (far)igi tiun medikamenton analizita
Mi aranĝos ke ĝi estu analizita/ke ĝi submetiĝu al analizo
Mi intencas sendi ĝin por analizo
As is common with translation, you can have more than one option.
Miland (User's profile) September 30, 2015, 12:33:17 PM
Mi intencas raporti ka kuraciston/farmaciiston/flegistinon/ktp-iston al la polico!
It depends on whether someone is speaking rhetorically, or really intends to use an analytical chemist.