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tommjames (顯示個人資料) 2015年11月6日下午2:04:51
Alkanadi:Is Esperanto a big part of your life?I wouldn't describe it that way, but for sure it's something I do every day in some form or other and take a lot of enjoyment from. Like erinja I would be reticent to call it a hobby though. I mean it's not like I sit down conciously every day and have my "Esperanto time" or something, it's more of a passive thing; chatting on Skype here, correcting a lernu.net lesson there, reading the odd Esperanto article at lunch break, a bit of translation from time to time etc - just part of the daily routine.
Beyond that I suppose I probably have something of an emotional connection to the language too. I really like Esperanto, for a variety of reasons, and I would feel quite sad if I were somehow prevented from using it or being exposed to it, long term.
lagtendisto (顯示個人資料) 2015年11月6日下午3:29:56
Alkanadi:Is Esperanto a big part of your life?Some day it was. Now its more spare-time activity 'only', in detail mostly reading news and books written in E-o and efforts to understand the text more accurate with help of PMEG.
yyaann (顯示個人資料) 2015年11月7日上午3:49:10
Alkanadi:Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs is now considered a deprecated model. People don't necessarily prioritise their needs in the way he thought. For example, people can put their spiritual needs before their physicological needs. In several religions, fasting is a spiritual practice. Also, some people are ready to die for their ideals (soldiers, rebels, guerilleros, suicide bombers, etc) or to save the people they love.
Everyone has needs
That said, the contribution of hobbies to hapiness and health is well documented. All things being equal, people with a hobby live longer than people without one.
Vestitor (顯示個人資料) 2015年11月7日上午9:32:00
yyaann:I prefer the more direct approach of New Zealand former Labour Prime Minister Norman Kirk (a man with his finger on the pulse of reality) when he said:
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs is now considered a deprecated model. People don't necessarily prioritise their needs in the way he thought. For example, people can put their spiritual needs before their physicological needs. In several religions, fasting is a spiritual practice. Also, some people are ready to die for their ideals (soldiers, rebels, guerilleros, suicide bombers, etc) or to save the people they love.
That said, the contribution of hobbies to hapiness and health is well documented. All things being equal, people with a hobby live longer than people without one.
"People don't want much, just someone to love, somewhere to live, somewhere to work and something to hope for."
The latter at least correlates nicely with Esperanto.
Tempodivalse (顯示個人資料) 2015年11月7日下午2:05:38
At best Maslow's hierarchy can be considered a general indicator of human needs, but there are so many counterexamples that it cannot be considered a reliable model in any given instance.
E.g. some people go for years without sex (or their entire lives) without any negative impact on themselves; composers, writers, and other artists often compose brilliant works when in poor health or destitute. Not everyone's priorities are the same, though it is tempting for psychologists and sociologists to believe so - it would make the disciplines so much less messy.
Vestitor (顯示個人資料) 2015年11月7日下午4:01:17
robbkvasnak (顯示個人資料) 2015年11月7日下午7:10:14
Just think about it: he puts belongingness AFTER the need for safety, etc. We as humans CANNOT have safety without other humans. It is impossible in the environment of the Earth. A single human being could only survive on Robincon Carusoe's fictitiuos island and even then hardly. We cannot fulfill any of our needs without the help of other human beings. We were once a favorite menu item on many animals' lists. We have no fangs nor claws. We cannot run or swim very fast. We cannot fly. We cannot clothe outselves without help, nor protect ourselves. We do it only in groups and this through the weapon, so to speak, of language. Belonging together is a fundamental part of humanity.
The capitalists want to say no! you can be a 'self-made' man/woman. But one person alone CANNOT in any way do this. Without society we cease to exist.
yyaann (顯示個人資料) 2015年11月7日下午7:40:24
robbkvasnak:In my dissertation published in 2007 I made a strong argument against Maslow's pyramid which is in my view an attempt to verify the purely materialistic view of capitalism. I was not the first to criticize it and I have cited many others in my work.I like your analysis. A somewhat similar thought I had on Maslow's pyramid is that it doesn't account for the fact that some cultures value sacrifice for others more than personal fulfilment. If we are to believe Maslow's view, then we should conclude that some cultures are detrimental to fulfilling one's needs. But we know it's not the case. People who have a positive attitude toward their own culture feel happier when they successfully live up to the expectations of their own cultural role. In short, if your culture values sacrifice for others and you are good at it, you are happy. So ironically sacrificing your own needs can lead to fulfilling some of your higher needs in certain conditions.
Just think about it: he puts belongingness AFTER the need for safety, etc. We as humans CANNOT have safety without other humans.
Christa627 (顯示個人資料) 2015年11月7日下午10:07:23
For me, Esperanto fulfills a psychological need; I feel that I can express my thoughts better, and think more freely, in Esperanto than in English. That is why, despite all my family's bashing, saying I'm wasting my life, and that Esperanto is nonsense/gibberish/not a language, all which is very painful to me, I can't abandon it; finding Esperanto was one of the best things that ever happened to me, no matter what they say!