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Soda

ya sudanglo, 27 Novemba 2015

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sudanglo (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 27 Novemba 2015 11:25:39 asubuhi

I imagine that the American term 'soda' means (in English) any fizzy non-alcoholic drink.

Is there an economical term for this in Esperanto?

Sodo is caustic soda, which you wouldn't want to drink. Do people say sodao?

Karbonato is a chemical term, for a carbonate - eg washing soda (sodium carbonate) is natria karbonato.

I'm not sure that karbonata is chemically appropriate for soda's, though we do say carbonated in English for drinks that have injected carbon dioxide.

NJ Esperantist (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 27 Novemba 2015 12:16:56 alasiri

Gasakvo probably means carbonated water (its in PIV), but would gastrinkaĵo be econominal enough?

Miland (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 27 Novemba 2015 12:19:59 alasiri

If you are willing to have a neologismo, sodao may be as good as anything. Ŝauma trinkaĵo or gasa trinkaĵo might work.

erinja (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 27 Novemba 2015 1:46:26 alasiri

I usually say ŝaŭmtrinkaĵo for sugary fuzzy drinks. But akvo kun gaso, for fizzy water.

sudanglo (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 27 Novemba 2015 3:21:06 alasiri

Ŝauma trinkaĵo would include champagne (which is not a soda). It would also cover other sparkling wines. (I think also that soda's are always sweetened, whether by sugar or artificial sweetener.

Since we already have kolao, perhaps sodao is acceptable.

Gasakvo for soda water, maybe.

When I looked up soda in Wikipedia and followed the link to Vikipedio it came out as Senalkohola trinkaĵo. But 'soft drinks' covers fruit juices as well and they are not soda's

RiotNrrd (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 27 Novemba 2015 4:49:55 alasiri

In America, "soda" is a somewhat regional term. Some areas say "pop" instead and "soda" not at all. I live in a soda region, where "Would you like a pop?" sounds funny, whereas the reverse would be true in the pop regions.

I like the term "gastrinkaĵo". It seems to cover the right amount of ground, while remaining fully Esperanto.

Vestitor (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 27 Novemba 2015 8:34:34 alasiri

In England you used to hear 'fizzy pop' everywhere.

Maybe the increasingly common term 'soft drink' can be Esperantised?

NJ Esperantist (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 28 Novemba 2015 1:42:37 asubuhi

RiotNrrd:In America, "soda" is a somewhat regional term. Some areas say "pop" instead and "soda" not at all. I live in a soda region, where "Would you like a pop?" sounds funny, whereas the reverse would be true in the pop regions.
Speaking of regionalisms, in some parts of America the generic word for soda is 'coke'.

robbkvasnak (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 28 Novemba 2015 2:30:15 asubuhi

Krause in his Großes Wörterbuch Deutsch-Esperanto suggests: limonado - works for me
His translation of Selterswasser (Selter water) is: sodakvo
Don't forget that we have two words for 'drink' in Esperanto: drinki and trinki. So ĉampanjo that contains alcohol belongs to the drinkaĵo group whereas virgin champagne [if there is such a thing] would belong to the trinkaĵo group. Both would belong to the 'eferveskaĵo' group
We could also use 'ŝaŭmsuko' for some of the fruity type drinks - though they rarely contain any real fruit juice, hehehe - we just need some cunning, clever marketing jerks without scruples [senskrupululoj] - who are very abundant in English-speaking countries especially to invent some names for soda/pop/soft drinks with an efervesent and fleeting feel of 'healthy' to seduce the Esperanto speakers to consume a lot of the stuff.
How about 'bobelaĵo' or 'bobelakvo'?

00100100 (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 28 Novemba 2015 2:55:28 asubuhi

robbkvasnak:Krause in his Großes Wörterbuch Deutsch-Esperanto suggests: limonado - works for me
Well, reta-vortaro shows limonado as "Trinkaĵo farata el citrona suko, akvo kaj sukero" ("A drink make of lemon juice, water, and suger." ) Not quite what I would classify as "soda".

Vortaro.net offers up "sodakvo" as "Refreŝiga, dolĉa trinkaĵo kun fruktoekstrakto, ŝaŭma pro karbona dioksido". ("Refresing, sweet drink with fruit extract, sparkling because of carbon dioxide." )

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