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Alkanadi (프로필 보기) 2016년 3월 7일 오전 9:53:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dh-QvyktY4
He is learning way faster than I am. I think he already past my level, which took my two years. Maybe, he knows another language like Portuguese or something that helps him a lot.
I am also impressed with how quickly people in Europe learn Esperanto. Maybe because they are exposed to a lot of languages.
NJ Esperantist (프로필 보기) 2016년 3월 7일 오후 5:43:14
Alkanadi:Check out this guy. Here is learning from scratch and updating about his progress:And yay! He's also a woodworker!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dh-QvyktY4
He is learning way faster than I am. I think he already past my level, which took my two years. Maybe, he knows another language like Portuguese or something that helps him a lot.
I am also impressed with how quickly people in Europe learn Esperanto. Maybe because they are exposed to a lot of languages.
Alkanadi (프로필 보기) 2016년 3월 9일 오전 7:32:51
erinja:Most Esperantists aren't programmers. FYI.It is just a stereotype. Don't take it too seriously.
"...there seems to be disproportionately many computer programmers, free-thinkers and people with left-leaning politics who learn Esperanto..."
http://journalofinterest.com/essays/learnt-esperan...
"I know a ton of other Esperantist programmers..."
http://www.moosader.com/2014/10/7-better-reasons-t...
SPadern (프로필 보기) 2016년 3월 9일 오전 9:13:00
Alkanadi:Check out this guy. Here is learning from scratch and updating about his progress:I watched a few of his videos. Really impressive! He talked in one video about his language-learning-history: he had quite some experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dh-QvyktY4
He is learning way faster than I am. I think he already past my level, which took my two years. Maybe, he knows another language like Portuguese or something that helps him a lot.
Alkanadi:I am also impressed with how quickly people in Europe learn Esperanto. Maybe because they are exposed to a lot of languages.What makes you think that? Is there anything particular you've noticed?
erinja (프로필 보기) 2016년 3월 9일 오후 3:47:38
Alkanadi:A disproportionate numbers of programmers doesn't mean that most are programmers, it's just a silly statement to make. Esperanto also has a higher proportion of speakers who are vegetarians than the general population, but it would be foolish to say that because someone eats meat, that they are one of the few Esperanto speakers who isn't a vegetarian. Most Esperanto speakers aren't vegetarians, a large majority are not vegetarians (just as a large majority aren't programmers).erinja:Most Esperantists aren't programmers. FYI.It is just a stereotype. Don't take it too seriously.
Vestitor (프로필 보기) 2016년 3월 10일 오전 11:49:52
erinja:Wait a minute..! It does though doesn't it? If there are disproportionally more programmers in the Esperanto world than outside of it, the chances are higher that in the Esperanto world (being much smaller than the world) you would surely be more likely to bump into a programmer.
A disproportionate numbers of programmers doesn't mean that most are programmers, it's just a silly statement to make.
Statement 1: No Esperantists are right-wing (false of course).
Statement 2: Many Esperantists have left-wing tendencies (fairly true).
So it's not just a stereotype.
I now feel humourless.
bartlett22183 (프로필 보기) 2016년 3월 10일 오후 9:07:55
Vestitor:{some trimmed}I think we have to be very careful here. There may well be a false stereotype that advocates of constructed international languages are leftists, so that many centrists (in some places a majority) or rightists consider conIALs to be an evil cabal. I consider myself a rightist, but I genuinely advocate the wider use of an international auxiliary language. (My preferences are Interlingua or Esperanto.) In fact, it is precisely because I am a rightist that I so advocate. By all means keep your own mother tongue (and as a rightist usonano I deeply, profoundly resent the intrusion of Spanish into the USA, but yes let everyone use a neutral IAL). So those advocates who consider themselves liberals or leftists have to be very, very careful that they do not alienate conservative / rightist samideanoj from the Fina Venko.
Statement 1: No Esperantists are right-wing (false of course).
Statement 2: Many Esperantists have left-wing tendencies (fairly true).
So it's not just a stereotype.