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Learning Esperanto from scratch

ya Alkanadi, 7 Machi 2016

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Alkanadi (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 7 Machi 2016 9:53:47 asubuhi

Check out this guy. Here is learning from scratch and updating about his progress:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dh-QvyktY4

He is learning way faster than I am. I think he already past my level, which took my two years. Maybe, he knows another language like Portuguese or something that helps him a lot.

I am also impressed with how quickly people in Europe learn Esperanto. Maybe because they are exposed to a lot of languages.

NJ Esperantist (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 7 Machi 2016 5:43:14 alasiri

Alkanadi:Check out this guy. Here is learning from scratch and updating about his progress:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dh-QvyktY4

He is learning way faster than I am. I think he already past my level, which took my two years. Maybe, he knows another language like Portuguese or something that helps him a lot.

I am also impressed with how quickly people in Europe learn Esperanto. Maybe because they are exposed to a lot of languages.
And yay! He's also a woodworker!

Alkanadi (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 8 Machi 2016 7:39:44 asubuhi

NJ Esperantist:And yay! He's also a woodworker!
I know. He is one of the few Esperantists that isn't a programmer.

erinja (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 8 Machi 2016 4:04:24 alasiri

Alkanadi:
NJ Esperantist:And yay! He's also a woodworker!
I know. He is one of the few Esperantists that isn't a programmer.
?

Most Esperantists aren't programmers. FYI.

Alkanadi (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 9 Machi 2016 7:32:51 asubuhi

erinja:Most Esperantists aren't programmers. FYI.
It is just a stereotype. Don't take it too seriously.

"...there seems to be disproportionately many computer programmers, free-thinkers and people with left-leaning politics who learn Esperanto..."
http://journalofinterest.com/essays/learnt-esperan...

"I know a ton of other Esperantist programmers..."
http://www.moosader.com/2014/10/7-better-reasons-t...

SPadern (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 9 Machi 2016 9:13:00 asubuhi

Alkanadi:Check out this guy. Here is learning from scratch and updating about his progress:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dh-QvyktY4

He is learning way faster than I am. I think he already past my level, which took my two years. Maybe, he knows another language like Portuguese or something that helps him a lot.
I watched a few of his videos. Really impressive! He talked in one video about his language-learning-history: he had quite some experience.

Alkanadi:I am also impressed with how quickly people in Europe learn Esperanto. Maybe because they are exposed to a lot of languages.
What makes you think that? Is there anything particular you've noticed?

erinja (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 9 Machi 2016 3:47:38 alasiri

Alkanadi:
erinja:Most Esperantists aren't programmers. FYI.
It is just a stereotype. Don't take it too seriously.
A disproportionate numbers of programmers doesn't mean that most are programmers, it's just a silly statement to make. Esperanto also has a higher proportion of speakers who are vegetarians than the general population, but it would be foolish to say that because someone eats meat, that they are one of the few Esperanto speakers who isn't a vegetarian. Most Esperanto speakers aren't vegetarians, a large majority are not vegetarians (just as a large majority aren't programmers).

Fenris_kcf (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 10 Machi 2016 7:08:35 asubuhi

„Where's erinjas humor gone? Long time passing ...“

Vestitor (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 10 Machi 2016 11:49:52 asubuhi

erinja:
A disproportionate numbers of programmers doesn't mean that most are programmers, it's just a silly statement to make.
Wait a minute..! It does though doesn't it? If there are disproportionally more programmers in the Esperanto world than outside of it, the chances are higher that in the Esperanto world (being much smaller than the world) you would surely be more likely to bump into a programmer.

Statement 1: No Esperantists are right-wing (false of course).
Statement 2: Many Esperantists have left-wing tendencies (fairly true).

So it's not just a stereotype.

I now feel humourless.

bartlett22183 (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 10 Machi 2016 9:07:55 alasiri

Vestitor:{some trimmed}
Statement 1: No Esperantists are right-wing (false of course).
Statement 2: Many Esperantists have left-wing tendencies (fairly true).

So it's not just a stereotype.
I think we have to be very careful here. There may well be a false stereotype that advocates of constructed international languages are leftists, so that many centrists (in some places a majority) or rightists consider conIALs to be an evil cabal. I consider myself a rightist, but I genuinely advocate the wider use of an international auxiliary language. (My preferences are Interlingua or Esperanto.) In fact, it is precisely because I am a rightist that I so advocate. By all means keep your own mother tongue (and as a rightist usonano I deeply, profoundly resent the intrusion of Spanish into the USA, but yes let everyone use a neutral IAL). So those advocates who consider themselves liberals or leftists have to be very, very careful that they do not alienate conservative / rightist samideanoj from the Fina Venko.

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