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Names and Accusative

od ehanson, 7 kwietnia 2008

Wpisy: 13

Język: English

Taciturn_ (Pokaż profil) 8 kwietnia 2008, 12:19:27

Well. guys n girls, as for me , i do not personally find anything wrong with diclining names ridulo.gif. The fact is you`r so ignorant to this possibility for your lack of it in your mother tounge,but in russian we do it with almost all names and words but only several foreign ones that ends with stressed "o".For instance:

RiotNrrd would gonna be treated this way -

Sing.:

Nominativus - RiotNrrd
Genetivus - RiotNrrda
Dativus - RiotNrrdu
Accusativus - RiotNrrda
Ablativus - RiotNrrdom
Vocativus - RiotNrrd

Plur.:

Nominativus - RiotNrrdy
Genetivus - RiotNrrdov
Dativus - RiotNrrdam
Accusativus - RiotNrrdov
Ablativus - RiotNrrdami
Vocativus - RiotNrrdy

So if i do it with your`s. Don`t get offenced in future hehe ridulo.gif

ehanson (Pokaż profil) 8 kwietnia 2008, 12:21:04

CIT=RiotNrrd]Another way to think of it, also, is to look at the structure of the sentence logically. You can't tell by looking at "RiotNrrd" whether it is in the accusative or not. But you CAN tell by looking at "mi". In that sentence, one of the two words ("RiotNrrd" or "mi") HAS to take the accusative. "Mi" obviously didn't - assuming the speaker didn't make a mistake - and therefore has to be the subject. Thus "RiotNrrd" must be the direct object, by process of elimination.[/quote]Thank you, this is why this forum is so great.

ServantOfGod91 (Pokaż profil) 9 kwietnia 2008, 22:43:15

Taciturn_:Well. guys n girls, as for me , i do not personally find anything wrong with diclining names ridulo.gif. The fact is you`r so ignorant to this possibility for your lack of it in your mother tounge,but in russian we do it with almost all names and words but only several foreign ones that ends with stressed "o".For instance:

RiotNrrd would gonna be treated this way -

Sing.:

Nominativus - RiotNrrd
Genetivus - RiotNrrda
Dativus - RiotNrrdu
Accusativus - RiotNrrda
Ablativus - RiotNrrdom
Vocativus - RiotNrrd

Plur.:

Nominativus - RiotNrrdy
Genetivus - RiotNrrdov
Dativus - RiotNrrdam
Accusativus - RiotNrrdov
Ablativus - RiotNrrdami
Vocativus - RiotNrrdy

So if i do it with your`s. Don`t get offenced in future hehe ridulo.gif
However, an English person speaking Esperanto with a Russian person would probably expect more equality than if they were speaking Russian. Speaking Russian, they would expect their name to be forced into the rule of the national language. On the other hand, they would not expect a language based on the principles of international equality to force them to accept, as their name, the equivalent of an opposite-gender variant of their name in their national language. I hope I made sense

My personal preference is to leave names unchanged (I esperantize and use the -ĉjo and -njo if I know the person well, and they have given me permission). Personally, I like to be referred to as "Natano" (my name is Nate), but that is simply because my name is so easy to esperantize. For other peoples names, I leave it unchanged in speaking, and add "-n" to the name (ex. mnlg would be "mnlg-n") in writing if the name does not end with a vowel.

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