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Question about tio/tiu

by PklPod, January 21, 2017

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PklPod (User's profile) January 21, 2017, 6:20:29 PM

Hi,

I'm very much a beginner and working through the new lernu Esperanto course, and got stuck on the third set of exercises in chapter 5. The exercise requires you to write a sentence in the format provided in the example below, and I've been getting all of the singular exercises right so far. However, I can't seem to get the plurals right - I've tried "Tioj" and "Tiuj" but they are always marked incorrect. Can you tell me where I might be going wrong?

Example: li + ideo = Tio estas lia ideo.
Plural: li + ideoj = Tioj/Tiuj estas lia ideoj. ???

Thanks!

VOllOV (User's profile) January 21, 2017, 6:53:13 PM

Hi ridulo.gif

I think you're doing great with the plurals of tio and tiu! Remember that your possessive adjective (lia) needs to agree with the noun it's modifying.
Singular: lia ideo
Plural: liaj ideoj

My recommendation: Try "Tioj/Tiuj estas liaj ideoj."

Amike

PklPod (User's profile) January 21, 2017, 11:40:13 PM

Of course - thanks so much!

Frano (User's profile) January 22, 2017, 8:20:14 PM

En Leciono 13 de La tuta Esperanto Henrik Seppik skribas:

91. Kio, kiu, kia.
Rimarko: La io-vortoj estas uzataj nur ununombre: Per kio (ne «kioj») iras la homoj? Per la piedoj.

Do:
"Tio estas liaj ideoj".
"Tiuj estas liaj ideoj."

LiamBeaman (User's profile) January 24, 2017, 11:52:38 PM

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LiamBeaman (User's profile) January 24, 2017, 11:53:40 PM

PklPod:Hi,

I'm very much a beginner and working through the new lernu Esperanto course, and got stuck on the third set of exercises in chapter 5. The exercise requires you to write a sentence in the format provided in the example below, and I've been getting all of the singular exercises right so far. However, I can't seem to get the plurals right - I've tried "Tioj" and "Tiuj" but they are always marked incorrect. Can you tell me where I might be going wrong?

Example: li + ideo = Tio estas lia ideo.
Plural: li + ideoj = Tioj/Tiuj estas lia ideoj. ???

Thanks!
Never use 'tioj'! It's grammatically incorrect. As Frano said above, -io words are only used in the singular, whereas -iu words can apply to both the singular and the plural.

gelko_la_singapuro (User's profile) February 5, 2017, 2:58:13 AM

Don't 'tio' and 'tiu' mean 'that'? What's the difference between the two?

andyjdavis (User's profile) February 7, 2017, 2:34:10 PM

gelko_la_singapuro:Don't 'tio' and 'tiu' mean 'that'? What's the difference between the two?
Mi ankaŭ volas scii

Vestitor (User's profile) February 7, 2017, 4:58:21 PM

This is in numerous threads here, but basically you can see the difference by looking at the corresponding 'k' words: kio and kiu. They are both 'what' but refer to different things, or rather things in different ways.

In short tio = that and tiu = that one.

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