Why Esperanto won’t diverge into dialects
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ururimi: English
walfino (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 14 Ruheshi 2019 14:55:07
Zam_franca (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 22 Ruheshi 2019 16:35:34
MiMalamasLaAnglan:English might not have split into different languages, but when it changed from Old English to Middle English, it basically turned into a different language.Vi nomiĝas "MiMalamasLaAnglan", vi diras "ne krokodilu" kaj vi skribas en angle ? Estas tre amuza. Mi ne koleras,nur mi ridas
Zam_franca (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 22 Ruheshi 2019 16:36:33
(korektita 5 monatoj post)
Droody (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 24 Ruheshi 2019 19:57:59
You do get a few instances where several wordings and such could be used.
Take that with a grain of salt though, I'm a newcomer who knows barely a lick of Esperanto!
Metsis (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 25 Ruheshi 2019 07:48:04
Droody:In my opinion, Esperanto is a somewhat flexible, dynamic language.This is a double-edged sword. It is true, that you can relatively easily come up words in case you don't know the exact ones. This helps to get your message through in everyday situations. Perhaps this easiness among other things has caused certain vagueness in scientific texts, I don't know. I have found it hard to find good, new writings in E-o, when it comes to computer science (yes, I'm familiar with STEB).
You do get a few instances where several wordings and such could be used.
I see a certain parallelism in, that e.g. articles in Monato are quite often written in a style, where the need to excessively play with words, tweaking and twisting them has superseded any reasonable requirements of clarity.
Miono (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 6 Mukakaro 2019 00:24:13
Can a language be a dialect of another, even if the diverge was caused artificially? I'm not sure.
That's rather a philosophical idea, perhaps.
BillyShears (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 7 Mukakaro 2019 12:35:16
Miono:Maybe I'm wrong, but I sometimes think Ido could be a sort of dialect, depending on how one defines dialect.As long as Esperanto is considered a language, you would be correct. A dialect can be a dialect even if it is caused artificially.
Can a language be a dialect of another, even if the diverge was caused artificially? I'm not sure.
That's rather a philosophical idea, perhaps.
BillyShears (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 7 Mukakaro 2019 12:36:10
Zam_franca (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 7 Mukakaro 2019 13:44:05
BillyShears:Should we then permit the creation of dialects in Esperanto, and hold a standard, international Esperanto as English already does?Why we sould do this ? I am sorry but this is nonsense !
Kial ni devus fari tion ? Mi bedaŭras sed estas sensencaĵo !
walfino (Kwerekana umwidondoro) 10 Mukakaro 2019 13:59:55
BillyShears:Should we then permit the creation of dialects in Esperanto, and hold a standard, international Esperanto as English already does?But there are already some dialects. Ri-ismo, Esperant' etc. come to mind (even if Esperant' seems somewhat artificial). And we already have a standard international Esperanto defined by the fundamento.
However to me beginner standard Esperanto sometimes feels like a different dialect from experienced standard Esperanto (which usually has a much higher proportion of adverbs, and adjectives used as verbs, for example).