Esperanto ideologies?
Valtteri233 :lta, 12. syyskuuta 2020
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Valtteri233 (Näytä profiilli) 12. syyskuuta 2020 17.28.40
Zam_franca (Näytä profiilli) 12. syyskuuta 2020 17.53.57
If you weren't new to Esperanto, I would have suggested you the following article in Esperanto: https://teokajlibroj.wordpress.com/2020/04/05/raum...
You can still read it with Google translate, though.
Have you read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finvenkismo
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raumism ?
IMHO, most of the esperantists are neither finvenkistoj, nor raŭmistoj. Maybe they are a kind of combination of both (raŭmisma finvenkismo?) or simply nothing. I personally don't know any other "isms" within the Esperanto movement.
Valtteri233 (Näytä profiilli) 13. syyskuuta 2020 10.53.34
Viesti on piilotettu.
Frano (Näytä profiilli) 13. syyskuuta 2020 11.19.22
Zam_franca:IMHO, most of the esperantists are neither finvenkistoj, nor raŭmistoj. Maybe they are a kind of combination of both (raŭmisma finvenkismo?) or simply nothing. I personally don't know any other "isms" within the Esperanto movement.Mi feliĉas ke ankaŭ mi ne konas aliajn "ismo"-jn en Esperanto-movado, sed ili estas (aŭ almenaŭ oni diras tiel):
En nia movado oni babilas pri «finvenkismo», «pracelismo», «lapennismo», «desubismo», «desuprismo», «raŭmismo» ktp. kaj oni kredas, ke per tia kabineta teoriumado oni faris siajn devon kaj eblon por la movado.
I. F. Bociort
Edveno (Näytä profiilli) 4. lokakuuta 2020 8.00.55
Zam_franca (Näytä profiilli) 4. lokakuuta 2020 9.45.18
Edveno:Esperantists these days are mostly raŭmistos, concerned with cultivating Esperanto cultural works (literature, song, poetry ktp.) Even the people who still sell the idea of the fina venko have to use raŭmist talking points ("Esperanto has its own literature!") to convince anyone to learn Esperanto (I say "convince" as though Esperanto is some horrible thing, but you know!); the idea and appeal of a cultureless Utopian universal language died with the World Wars and with the rise of concern for minority languages among the linguistically knowledgeable.I don't think that finvenkismo is opposed to an Esperanto literature. Esperanto has always aimed to be a language of art and culture, since "Ho, mia kor'!" in 1887.
Nephihaha (Näytä profiilli) 24. joulukuuta 2020 23.49.44
Zam_franca:Saluton!Homaranismo
If you weren't new to Esperanto, I would have suggested you the following article in Esperanto: https://teokajlibroj.wordpress.com/2020/04/05/raum...
You can still read it with Google translate, though.
Have you read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finvenkismo
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raumism ?
IMHO, most of the esperantists are neither finvenkistoj, nor raŭmistoj. Maybe they are a kind of combination of both (raŭmisma finvenkismo?) or simply nothing. I personally don't know any other "isms" within the Esperanto movement.
https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homaranismo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homaranismo
I suppose the other -isms would be groups that latched onto Esperanto on - vegetaranism, Marxism, the Bahais, Spiritualism in Brazil etc.
Zam_franca (Näytä profiilli) 25. joulukuuta 2020 9.43.04
Nephihaha (Näytä profiilli) 25. joulukuuta 2020 12.15.03
There are all the vegan/Communist etc Esperantists I mentioned earlier, but these are examples of tendencies which have come in from outside. Homoranismo and Esperanto are very much intertwined, and it is perhaps one of the earliest Esperanto ideologies. I would argue Finvenkismo is an outgrowth of it.
Nephihaha (Näytä profiilli) 25. joulukuuta 2020 12.36.34
The idea of a bland world that all looks the same where all people act the same etc is a kind of horror. We are already a large part of the way there, but it is not a desirable aim. Humanity has progressed when there are different ways of living and thinking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anationalism