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Has anyone here looked into Lingua Franca Nova/LFN/Elefen?

by PrimeMinisterK, April 15, 2022

Messages: 9

Language: English

PrimeMinisterK (User's profile) April 15, 2022, 8:36:08 AM

I recently found out about this language and it's kind of intrigued me. It's inspired by creoles and is derived from the romance languages, and having studied Spanish a bit in the past, it strikes me as a language much like Spanish but with a greatly simplified grammar.

The language has actually been in existence for several decades and seems to consistently have a small community surrounding it (there's a Facebook group, a Discord, a subreddit (though not an especially active one), and I think maybe something on Telegram also. From what I can tell, Discord seems to be where most of the conversation is happening.

For whatever reason, it seems that the language can never quite get to the next level in terms of the size of its community and interest, but at the same time it doesn't die out either.

More info:

SlavikDze (User's profile) April 17, 2022, 10:03:33 AM

Yeah, this pidgin is pretty enough. I'm reading LFN-translation of "Winnie-the-Pooh" just now.

SlavikDze (User's profile) April 25, 2022, 8:27:43 AM

Alga aforismos de Mark Twain


All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure.
Tota, cual vos nesesa en esta vive, es ignoransa e confiansa, e alora sucseso es serta.


Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Vos debe nunca argumenta con stupida omos, car los va tira vos a sua nivel e pos va gania vos con sua esperiensa.


There are many humorous things in the world, among them the white man`s notion that he is less savage than the other savages.
En nosa mundo es multe humora cosas, entre cuales es la idea de la "blanka om", ce el es min savaja ca otra savajos.


Fortune knocks at every man`s door once in a life, but in a good many cases the man is in a neighbouring saloon and does not hear her.
Un ves en la vive fortuna toca a la porte de cada om, ma en multe casos acel omos es en visina baros e ne oida el.


The lack of money is the root of all evil.
La manca de mone es la radis de la tota mal.


nornen (User's profile) April 25, 2022, 5:28:30 PM

Interese. Ĉar mi denaske parolas la hispanan, mi komprenas ĉion. Ekz:

Tota, cual vos nesesa en esta vive, es ignoransa e confiansa, e alora sucseso es serta.
Todo que vos necesitás en esta vida, es la ignorancia y la confianza, y entonces el suceso (éxito) es (será) cierto.
("alora" mi komprenas pro la itala "allora")

Eĉ la frazoj ne aspektas kiel artefaritaj, ili povus bone esti en iu latinida lingvo, kiun mi ne konas. Eble ia kreolo el la karibo. Se mi ne scius, ke temas pri artefarita lingvo, mi eble konjektus, ke la frazoj estas katalunaj (kiun mi ne parolas).

Ĉu kun denaskaj slavparolantoj okazas la samo ĉe Medžuslovjansky?

SlavikDze (User's profile) April 26, 2022, 2:22:13 PM

Mi supozas, ke Interslavic estas sufiĉe komprenebla por ĉiuj pli-malpli edukitaj ruslingvanoj. Persone por mi nur malmultaj vortoj estis kaj estas dekomence nerekoneblaj.
Koncerne al LFN mi opinias, ke ĉi tiu lingvo estus pli oportuna, se ĝi havus proprajn pronomojn por ĉiu genro, ĉar unusola "el" por viroj kaj virinoj estas iom embarasa.
Sed mi esperas, ke en LFN-komunumo neniu ekkoleros, se iu insolenta ulo komencos uzi pronomo "ela" por virinoj.


A woman is driving for 1st time on the highway.
Her husband calls says:
"Be careful, love! It's just been on the radio, that someone is driving opposite to the traffic on the highway."
She replies:
"Someone...? These rascals are in hundreds!"
Una fem gida sua auto sur autovia prima ves.
Sua sposo telefona a ela e dise:
"Es atenta, cara! On comunica en radio, ce algun gida contra trafic sur acel autovia."
Ela responde:
"Algun...? Asi es sentos de tal idiotos!"


Luis_Manuel (User's profile) April 30, 2022, 8:45:58 PM

hahaha mi nomiĝas ĝin malbone parolata hispana.... ĝi estas escence vulgara latina sed simpligita. mi evidente parolas hispana, ĝi estas mia nativa ligvo ankaŭ mi flue parolas itala kaj portugala modere franca kaj kataluna. kun ĉiu el ĉi tiuj ligvoj mi komprenas ĉion....eĉ mi povas vidi kiu vorto venas el ĉi tie likvoj...

SlavikDze (User's profile) May 4, 2022, 5:26:28 AM

One day little Johnny was digging a hole in his back yard. The next-door neighbor spotted him and decided to investigate.
"Hello Johnny, what are you up to?" he asked.
"My goldfish died and I'm gonna bury him," Johnny replied.
"That's a really big hole for a goldfish, isn't it?" asked the neighbor.
"That's because he's inside your cat!"
A un dia peti Djoni fa buco en sua patio posterior. Un visino vide lo e deside aprende la causa.
"Alo, Djoni, cual tu vole con esta buco?" el demanda.
"Mea pex ora ia mori e me vole sepulta el," responde la xico.
"Ma tal buco es tro grande per un pex ora."
"Lo es a causa ce el es a interna de vosa gato."


A mother was teaching her son about the side-effects of alcohol. She gets two short glasses, filling one with water and the other with whiskey.
She says "I want you to see this."
She puts a worm in the water, and it swims around. She puts a worm in the whiskey, and the worm dies immediately.
She then says, feeling that she has made her point clear, "What do you have to say about this experiment?"
The son responds by saying: "If I drink whiskey, I won't get worms!"
Un madre vole instrui sua fio sur nosiva efeto de alcol. Ela prende du tases e pleni un tas par acua e la otra par wisce.
Ela dise: "Me vole, ce tu vide lo."
Ela pone un verme en acua, e el nada ala. Ela pone otra verme en wisce, e el mori pronto.
Ela demanda alora, pensante ce sua esplica es clar: "Cual tu pote dise sur esta esperimenta?"
E la fio responde: "Si me bevi wisce, me no va ave vermes!"


An ethnogapher visits an Indian tribe full of men.
He asks "How do you guys relieve your sexual tension?"
"Simple, just come down to the river tomorrow and we'll show you."
The next day the ethnographer shows up and sees a group of men near a donkey.
One man says "Since you're our guest you get to go first."
The ethnographer not wanting to go against custom starts to kiss, then proceeds to have sex with the donkey.
Then a man in the group asks, "Are you almost done, friend? We need the donkey to cross the river in order to get to the tribe of women."
Un etnografiste visita un tribu indian, do es sola omes.
El demanda: "E como vos, xicos, lejeri vosa tensa sesal?"
"Simple... Veni a la rio doman e nos va mostra a tu."
A la dia seguente la etnografiste veni a la rio e vide un grupo de omes prosima a un asino.
Un om dise: "Car tu es nosa ospitada, tu debe es prima."
La etnografiste, ci no vole vade contra costum, comensa besa la asino e pos ave seso con esta animal.
Alora un om en la grupo demanda: "Esce tu ia fini, ami? Nos nesesa la asino per traversa la rio e ateni la tribu de femes."


SlavikDze (User's profile) May 11, 2022, 11:34:33 AM

DEA officer stops at a ranch in Texas, and talks with an old rancher. He tells the rancher, "I need to inspect your ranch for illegally grown drugs."
The rancher says, "Okay , but do not go in that field over there," as he points out the location.
The DEA officer verbally explodes saying, "Mister, I have the authority of the Federal Government with me."
Reaching into his rear pants pocket, he removes his badge and proudly displays it to the rancher. "See this badge? This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish... On any land... No questions asked or answers given. Have I made myself clear? Do you understand? "
The rancher nods politely, apologizes, and goes about his chores.
A short time later, the old rancher hears loud screams and sees the DEA officer running for his life chased by the rancher's big Santa Gertrudis Bull. With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer, and it seems likely that he'll get gored before he reaches safety. The officer is clearly terrified.
The rancher throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs, "Your badge... Show him your badge!"
Un ofisior de la Ajenteria Contra Narcotika veni a un ranxo en Texas e dise a la ranxor vea:
"Me debe esamina vosa ranxo sur narcoticas nonlegal cresente."
La ranxor dise:
"Bon, ma no vade en acel campo."
E el indica la loca.
La ofisior iritada dise:
"Senior, me ave la autoria de Governa Federal con me!"
El prende de un pox sua insenia e mostra lo orgulosa a la ranxor.
"Esce vos vide esta insenia? Esta insenia sinifia, ce me pote vade a cualce loca longo mea desira! En cualce rejion! Sin alga demandas, sin alga respondes! Esce mea esplica es clar? Esce vos ia comprende?"
La ranxor vea confirma con testa, escusa se e continua sua labora.
Pos tempo corta la ranxor oia crias forte e vide, ce la ofisior core de sua bove grande, nomida Santa Gertrudis.
Con cada paso la bove plu prosimi a la ofisior, e pare, ce la om va es sur la cornos ante cuando el atene secur loca. Es clar, ce la ofisior es forte asustada.
La ranxor lansa sua utiles, core a la serca e crias a la ofisior:
"Vosa insenia... Mostra a el vosa insenia!"


SlavikDze (User's profile) May 19, 2022, 11:26:32 AM

John was sitting outside his local pub one day, enjoying a quiet pint and generally feeling good about himself, when a nun suddenly appears at his table and starts decrying the evils of drink.
"You should be ashamed of yourself young man! Drinking is a Sin! Alcohol is the blood of the devil!"
Now John gets pretty annoyed about this, and goes on the offensive.
"How do you know this, Sister?"
"My Mother Superior told me so."
"But have you ever had a drink yourself? How can you be sure that what you are saying is right?"
"Don't be ridiculous--of course I have never taken alcohol myself."
"Then let me buy you a drink - if you still believe afterwards that it is evil I will give up drink for life."
"How could I, a Nun, sit outside this public house drinking?!"
"I'll get the barman to put it in a teacup for you, then no one will ever know."
The Nun reluctantly agrees, so John goes inside to the bar.
"Another pint for me, and a triple vodka on the rocks", then he lowers his voice and says to the barman "and could you put the vodka in a teacup?"
"Oh no! It's not that Nun again is it?"
A un dia Djon senta estra sua bar prefereda, bevi con gusta sua bir e senti se multe bon. Subita una monce fema senta a sua table e comensa parla su malia de alcol.
"Vos debe ave vergonia, joven om! Bevi alcol es un peca! Alcol es sangue de la diablo!"
Djon deveni iritada e comensa sua ataca.
"Como lo sabe, Sore?"
"La Madre de nosa monceria lo dise."
"Ma esce vos minima un ves ia proba alcol? Come vos pote es serta, ce vosa parolas es vera?"
"No dise asurdia — comprendable, ce me nunca ia bevi alcol."
"Alora permete, ce me compra a vos un poca de vodca — si a pos vos continua crede, ce alcol es malia, me no va plu bevi lo tra la tota mea vive."
"Ma como pote me, una monce, es sentante estra un beveria e bevinte alcol?!"
"Me pote dise a la bariste, ce el versa lo en un tas, e alora nun va persepi lo."
La monce fema nonvolente acorda, e Djon vade a interna de la bar.
"Otra tason de bir per me e truple vodca con jelo," el dise a la bariste. E, basinte sua vose, ajunta: "E versa, per favore, la vodca en un tas de te."
"O, no!" esclama la bariste. "Esce acel monce fema denova es asi?"


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