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ceigered (Näita profiili) 14. jaanuar 2009 9:35.34
Dankon!
ceigered (Näita profiili) 14. jaanuar 2009 13:22.41
黄鸡蛋:Ah, it seems that I have named that a "softened t/d"... Maybe it's a suitable name?Ha ha, nice name, I shall now refer to it as the 'softened t/d'
But it's interesting to see that your teacher was teaching you about the 'tr' / 'dr' pronunciation, I always wondered what happened in schools around the world when they taught English. But anyway, this got me thinking; the soft t/d before 'r' and the soft t/d before 'y' have a slight difference. Coming from an Australian's perspective, I'd say the soft 'd' in 'and you?' is pronounced with the back of the tongue high, and the 'd' in 'dream' with the back of the tongue low.
Maybe the 'd' in 'and you' is palatalised and the 'd' in 'dream' is an affricative?
EDIT:
mouaii:I think that dr as in dream is sometimes pronounced as a voiced alveolar plosive followed by a voiced postalveolar fricative and a alveolar approximant at the end.Ah didn't see this comment
d-jx-j is the best way to write it down using the Esperanto alphabet, I guess.
Anyway that's what I was thinking, a combination of a stop/plosive (I think that's the write word) with a fricative/approximate. But that seems a bit too complex to just be called an affricative.
Cheers mouaii
mnlg (Näita profiili) 14. jaanuar 2009 13:42.06
ceigered:But it's interesting to see that your teacher was teaching you about the 'tr' / 'dr' pronunciation, I always wondered what happened in schools around the world when they taught English.My high school English teacher used to say, "pronounce tr as you would if you were in Sicily", which is a rather accurate description
Spanglanese (Näita profiili) 14. jaanuar 2009 14:36.22
ceigered (Näita profiili) 15. jaanuar 2009 15:24.18
Spanglanese:Probably easiest way for someone who is used to a consonant-vowel-consonant-vowel pattern is to say the English word "jury" slowly and speed it up until it blends together into the 'dr' sound.Actually I must say that's how I pronounce things slowly - a 'j' followed by a 'er' sound and then the 'r' followed by the rest of the word.