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Double negatives

curious_s, 2009年9月27日

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语言: English

darkweasel (显示个人资料) 2009年10月11日下午12:38:33

R2D2!:
Pharoah:(like they do in Spanish for example)
Actually a Spanish-like usage would be something like
*“Mi ne faras nenion” (No estoy haciendo nada / I'm not doing nothing).
Although it is “correct” in Spanish, it is incorrect in both English and Esperanto.

—Ilhuıtemoc
It just means something different: in Spanish, the sentence is negative, while in English and Esperanto it's positive.

ceigered (显示个人资料) 2009年10月11日下午1:50:58

darkweasel:It just means something different: in Spanish, the sentence is negative, while in English and Esperanto it's positive.
Actually in English it carries two meanings - either a negative one or a postive one, depending on what was said before.
Examples:

Mother: "Honey what are you doing?"
Cowboy Child: "I aint doin' nothin'!

however,

Wife: "You're doing nothing staying home all day, go find a job!"
Disgruntled husband: "I'm not doing nothing! (followed by various excuses etc)".

"I'm not doing nothing" sounds a lot more negative when said with an American accent though, as majority of British commonwealth speakers don't really use double negatives.

ceigered (显示个人资料) 2009年10月11日下午6:53:06

Iĉo:
ceigered:Cowboy Child:
LOL!

ceigered:as majority of British commonwealth speakers don't really use double negatives.
You've never watched The Bill, have you? "I ain't done nuffin". Or Vicky Pollard in Little Brittain "I ain't not neven done nuffin." / "I don't know nuffin about nuffin"
Nah, I never could get into the bill... something about the theme music. But I can actually imagine that now that you mention. I think I'll correct myself by saying that double negatives are to some extent associated with Americanisms lango.gif.

darkweasel (显示个人资料) 2009年10月12日下午1:41:02

As far as I know, in English double negatives turning into a negative is a pure dialect thing lango.gif But what do I know?

Ironchef (显示个人资料) 2009年10月12日下午2:56:19

darkweasel:As far as I know, in English double negatives turning into a negative is a pure dialect thing lango.gif But what do I know?
One of the things I hear all the time here (New England) that makes me cringe (I'm from London), is when people say:

"You know, I could care less about him!"
(to which I want to say, "Well if you could, then please do!")

I was always brought up with the phrase:
"I could not care less about him!"
(in the sense if, I already care so little about him, I could not possibly care any less).

benanhalt (显示个人资料) 2009年11月5日上午7:19:41

Mark Liberman over at Language Log suggests that "could care less" is an example of negation by association. Seems reasonable to me.

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archive...

Incidentally, it was interesting to learn that that was the process by which "pas" became a negative in French. I love Language Log.

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