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erinja (Montri la profilon) 2009-decembro-02 01:40:40
But some people choose to use an "Esperanto name", to use within the Esperanto community. People have different reasons for doing that. Maybe their name is hard to pronounce for people from other countries, so they choose a simplified Esperanto version that is easier for Esperanto speakers. Some people like to make their name fit Esperanto grammatical forms. That means that they will put an -o on their names, so the name can easily accept the -n ending ("Mi vidas Vilĉjon = I see Bill; Vilĉjo = Bill)
Some people feel that their name should be "translated" into whatever language they are speaking. I know a Swiss guy (from a French-speaking region of Switzerland, but born to Italian parents) who called himself Patrick in English, Patrice in French, and Patrizio in Italian. He would be "Patriko" in Esperanto; he simply chose the variant of his name that was most common in each language he spoke.
Some people also like to translate the meaning of their names. You mention the name "Wei Min", which means caring for people; but if you don't speak Chinese, you don't know that the name means anything at all! So some people translate the meaning of their names in Esperanto, so that Esperanto speakers know what their names mean. Therefore, I met a woman who used the name "Bela Lumo" (Beautiful Light) in Esperanto, because that's what her name meant in Korean.
As I said, Esperanto is very free. Just tell people what to call you, and they will call you that. And out of politeness, you will call people what they ask you to call them (even though sometimes it seems like they made a bad choice!)
psilokan (Montri la profilon) 2009-decembro-04 02:45:39
My given name is Bradley, though I usually go by Brad. I would assume that the shortened form would be come Brado. As for the full version, since Y does not exist in Esperanto I figured I could use the J since it has a similar sound, so I came up with Bradlijo.
Anyone know if this translation is at all accurate?
Sez (Montri la profilon) 2009-decembro-04 04:16:34
erinja (Montri la profilon) 2009-decembro-04 04:46:00
A hint with Esperantizing your name - every single sound from English is not usually translated. Sometimes we can render certain sounds in Esperanto letters, but if those sounds end up as unusual Esperanto letter combinations, we usually leave them out.
ij is rare - I wouldn't recommend putting it in your name. Just because your name has Y in English, doesn't mean it needs J in Esperanto!
I'd render Bradley as "Bradlio", if you want the -o ending. If you want to go for correct pronunciation but don't care abut -o, you could call yourself Bradli. We also have the method of taking the first syllable or so of your name, and adding -ĉjo for a man, or -njo or -nja for a woman. That's a popular choice because an Esperanto name is a nickname anyway, since it isn't your legal name, so use of the nickname suffix is quite suitable. That would make you "Braĉjo".
RiotNrrd (Montri la profilon) 2009-decembro-05 17:39:54
erinja:We also have the method of taking the first syllable or so of your name, and adding -ĉjo for a man, or -njo or -nja for a woman. That's a popular choice because an Esperanto name is a nickname anyway, since it isn't your legal name, so use of the nickname suffix is quite suitable. That would make you "Braĉjo".Which is the route I took. "Scott" (by sound) logically turns into "Skato", which I didn't like. "Skoto", the other obvious spelling-based choice, strikes me as even worse.
So I use "Skatĉjo" instead. I suppose I could have left the "t" out, but I actually like how it looks left in, and it doesn't appreciably affect the sound.
ceigered (Montri la profilon) 2009-decembro-06 06:44:04
Similarly, to me my name Christian by sound logically turns into "Krisĉin" or "Krisĝjen", however someone from some part of England might find that "Kristien" sounds much more logical.
The point being that there's heaps of choices due to varying pronunciations
Bradley could be heard as "Bredley" to people who don't have a proper "æ" sound in their language variety (e.g. some South African accents), so Breĉjo or Breĝjo could be an option for the adventurous self-nicknamer
CraigeryMontoya (Montri la profilon) 2009-decembro-08 00:46:59
Ezreal (Montri la profilon) 2009-decembro-10 05:27:37
erinja:Then I will be called Krondaro, Regato da la Nordo!
As I said, Esperanto is very free. Just tell people what to call you, and they will call you that.
J/K
I would think Eriko is a typical Esperantization of Eric?
erinja (Montri la profilon) 2009-decembro-10 16:44:33
Craig is a difficult name because, again, it isn't very international, it doesn't have a lot of equivalents in other languages. Your options for rendering it in Esperanto (if indeed you want to do so - remember that calling yourself "Craig", even in Esperanto, is perfectly fine) are:
- Kreg Just using the sound of it only.
- KregoTranslating the sounds into Esperanto norms and adding -o. (in this case, options 1 and 2 are nearly the same, but for a name like David, they'd be significantly different - Dejvid versus Davido)
- Roko or Klifo The name Craig means "rock" or "crag" or "cliff"; some people translate the meaning of their names. For example, Argilo, a user on this site is called Argilo ("clay") in Esperanto because his English name is Clayton.
- Kreĉjo a nickname form (using the -ĉj- ending) of options 1 or 2.
I like Kreĉjo, personally, but do keep in mind that "kraĉi" means "to spit", so please don't feel tempted to preserve the a in "Craig".
LyzTyphone (Montri la profilon) 2009-decembro-10 17:49:30
The result is that most names won't have a meaning of sense to translate. That "Wei Min" sounds a bit too straightforward, mainland style. Names given to children are not proper place for witty pun (with the family name) or propoganda (lots and lots of mainlanders I met were given names like Wen Ge, "cultural revolution", Wei Dong, "Guard of Mao Zedong", etc.)
Just the moan for a bygone era.
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As for my real Esperanto name (not this one online), I transliterated it and added -o to the end. I am not worried about the meaning lost because, as I said, there is not much to lose anyway.