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Names of Letters

글쓴이: jonsd, 2007년 3월 10일

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언어: English

erinja (프로필 보기) 2007년 3월 20일 오후 2:41:32

Islander:The 2 provided examples don't make much sense to me. The idea of such alphabet, as the NATO standard is, is to provide a short reference (usually 1 strong syllable followed by a soft one: ALpha, BRAvo, CHARlie, ...). Most provided examples have 3, even 4 syllables. This is counter-productive.
I agree. The problem is that most people don't know the whole 'radio alphabet', even in their native language, although there are certain conventions (Italians, for example, use names of cities - B as in Bologna, M as in Milano, etc). I think people are inclined to use whatever comes to mind, so while I agree with the use of alpha, bravo, charlie, etc - I personally spell my name (in English) with a mixture of names (P as in Peter) and random words (E as in Elephant).

Having said this, the lists that the Jarlibro gives are way better than the strange mishmash of names that people may not even be familiar with ("Is that Y as in Yellend or J as in Jelend???")

Islander (프로필 보기) 2007년 3월 20일 오후 2:46:18

Islander, your point is well taken. There is a need for this, and perhaps you are the person to do it.
I am a 3 month old Esperantist, I have absolutely no pretention of being the one to do something like this.

But such a standard would be important and the academy should look for a more formal concesus of such process. It's not 1 individual, no matter how knowledgeable and intelligent he or she may be, that could come up with the best option. As this would need to become a standard all over the world, this should be discussed with people from all linguistic and cultural backgrounds.

Making the NATO standard was not as easy as it may appear. It still isn't has several coutry may still have issues with 1 or 2 letters. Even in the US, airports replace "Delta" with "Dixie" to avoid confusion with Delta Airlines.

pastorant (프로필 보기) 2007년 3월 23일 오전 4:33:47

Islander:
Yes, it's K like knife and P like psychologist... rideto.gif
My wife has a very funny way of saying how to spell her name.
Someone asked her once if her name (Kelly) was spelled with a Y or an I, and she said ..neither..it's with an F!.

So now, the ongoing joke is..Kelly with an F, the Q is silent...
Only a few people get our humor ridulo.gif

Islander (프로필 보기) 2007년 3월 26일 오후 2:34:18

So now, the ongoing joke is..Kelly with an F, the Q is silent...
Only a few people get our humor ridulo.gif
That reminds me how a friend I had in grade school. His family name is Tremblay, which is the most common Québécois name. The teacher, probably out of habit, asked him to spell it out. Stomped at such request, he then spelled out T-r-e-m-b-l-a-y-z-o-w-i-c-h-k-y... And he actually was able to spell that much letters until the teacher realised.

richardhall (프로필 보기) 2007년 3월 27일 오후 7:33:36

Almost right!
"My name is spelt 'Luxury Yacht' but it's pronounced Throatwobbler Mangrove..."

I love Monty Python! rido.gif

richardhall (프로필 보기) 2007년 3월 28일 오전 11:10:07

waxle:Ah, Richard, and we can never forget the wonderful advances in Baroque music brought to the world by Johan Gambolputty.....of Nul.
Quite so -- but discussing his works can be a lengthy business. ridulo.gif

At the risk of appearing a real "Python nerd" (which I'm not, honest!) wasn't he 'Johan Gambolputty... of Ulm'? senkulpa.gif

erinja (프로필 보기) 2007년 3월 30일 오후 12:57:23

waxle:
richardhall:... of Ulm'? senkulpa.gif
AAAAAAAAH!!! I can't believe I did that.
I wrote that response before I had taken my tea! That's what I'll say.
Since you're American, I'm afraid that excuse won't cut it lango.gif

richardhall (프로필 보기) 2007년 3월 30일 오후 2:10:17

erinja:Since you're American, I'm afraid that excuse won't cut it lango.gif
Give the fellow a break! American or not, if he hadn't had his tea, that's excuse enough! okulumo.gif

kanajlo (프로필 보기) 2007년 3월 30일 오후 10:27:17

Tamen, la kafo
vere vigligas onin, pli ol la teo. shoko.gif

richardhall (프로필 보기) 2007년 3월 30일 오후 11:38:55

kanajlo:Tamen, la kafo
vere vigligas onin, pli ol la teo. shoko.gif
Kafo vigligus, sed teo vivigas.

Coffee might stimulate, but tea gives life. okulumo.gif

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