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k1attack (Å vise profilen) 2010 3 26 13:35:57

So, if there's no word for "no", then for "I don't see you", you would say, "It's untrue (anti-true) that I see you", right?

ceigered (Å vise profilen) 2010 3 26 16:42:08

@ k1attack:

I'm not grammarian on this language, but I would have thought that "is" is signified like in basic Russian and Indonesian/Malay, where you simply write the thing followed by what it is, without any copula/verb in between.

So: robati shestlivie in Russian could mean "the robots are happy" (роботы счастливые), and "ayam goreng" in Indonesian could mean either "fried chicken" or "the chicken is fried" (although context changes things greatly).

And also, in terms of "no", I think you basically say "I unsee you" - effectively, "I do the opposite of seeing you" (which really means you don't see them).
The Esperanto equivalent would be "Mi malvidas vin" but it's a bit more complicated in Esperanto due to other nuances.

Once again, I have no clue what I'm saying, so take it with a pinch of salt or however that saying is meant to go

Arpee (Å vise profilen) 2010 3 27 05:22:11

nuku mu would mean "not see"

however there's no way to say yes or no so to answer a yes or no question just repeat the verb or "nuku" + "verB"

erinja (Å vise profilen) 2010 3 27 14:21:26

k1attack, Arpee, and ceigered, can you please, please, please, move your discussions of these conlangs to another forum, such as Unilang? Please?

A website whose purpose is to teach Esperanto is really not the place for discussing the intricacies of the development of the languages you are developing.

We are pretty forgiving of off-topic discussions in this forum, but this is really going too far.

Arpee (Å vise profilen) 2010 3 27 18:58:16

What better place to talk about international communication then at a place which represents this most?

I do disapprove of K1attack's making of these many different languages though.

The Puna and one other should have been enough. Don't keep making a new thread for every language which exist

erinja (Å vise profilen) 2010 3 28 00:08:24

Arpee:What better place to talk about international communication then at a place which represents this most?
It's a website for people who are learning Esperanto. It is not a website for generalized study of all conlangs, nor is it a site for people who are writing their own conlangs. Most people are here to help beginning Esperanto speakers, or to get help with their Esperanto and practice the language. The operative word being "Esperanto".

Whereas, Unilang has a whole forum that is specifically for discussion of constructed languages. That sounds much more suitable for your discussion, than this forum, which is focused on Esperanto only.

I know you are familiar with Unilang because I have seen your posts there, and I am not really sure why you are resisting moving this discussion to a more appropriate venue.

Arpee (Å vise profilen) 2010 3 28 02:59:39

First of all, I am not the creator of this thread so this point is moot.

Second of all, in this part of the forum, the description is "This is a place for discussing various topics in English.".

ceigered (Å vise profilen) 2010 3 28 07:10:00

I apologise Erinja for somewhat perpetuating the offtopic discussion.

And Arpee, Erinja sort of has authority on the matter of this forum's purpose being part of the website's development team, so I think it best to listen to her.

jan aleksan (Å vise profilen) 2010 3 28 09:48:05

In Omniglot Forum you will find more people interested in conlangs, who can give accurates advices,

erinja (Å vise profilen) 2010 3 28 15:06:08

Arpee:First of all, I am not the creator of this thread so this point is moot.

Second of all, in this part of the forum, the description is "This is a place for discussing various topics in English.".
Please don't play the semantics game with me, ok? It is not against site rules to discuss topics that don't relate to Esperanto in this forum. And as you can see, I haven't shut down this thread, though I could do so if I wanted to. I am asking you nicely to move this discussion to a more appropriate venue, as a courtesy to the other readers of this forum, many of which would appreciate keeping the topics a little more closely related to Esperanto.

You can feel free to post a link to your new forum discussion to this thread, so that any lernu readers who are interested in the topic can keep reading the thread.

I think I am being more than fair. I am asking you to respect the readers of the forum, who are mainly here because they are interested in Esperanto and things related to Esperanto, not because they are interested in version 3.6 of a nineteen and a half word language.

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